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oh hey, per HN terms and conditions I license my HN data only to HN. Can you please remove my data from the set? Thank you!

pelagicAustral 3mo ago
You must be fun at parties
moralestapia 3mo ago
By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed. @zX41ZdbW, you can safely ignore this guy. @GeoAtreides, next time read the actual terms of service before hallucinating.
- GeoAtreides 3mo ago
  >Y Combinator and its affiliated companies is zX41ZdbW either?
  - moralestapia 3mo ago
    Oh, now I see my comment might be a bit harsh. I didn't consider you might now know about: https://github.com/hackernews/api https://github.com/hackernews/api
    - GeoAtreides 3mo ago
      yes, and per HN terms and conditions only YC and YC affiliated (as you quoted) can use the api legally. I don't license my content to anyone else and so it shouldn't be use by anyone else, even if it's available on a free-for-all API (nice move HN, btw).
      - moralestapia 3mo ago
        https://github.com/HackerNews/API/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/HackerNews/API/blob/master/LICENSE It's right there, you just have to click the link I shared ...
        GeoAtreides 3mo ago
        that's the license for the API, not the content/data the API serves
        jupr 3mo ago
        >including without limitation the rights to use 'use'...arguably the sole purpose of the API is to fetch the data. You are grasping at straws.
  - fartcoin67 3mo ago
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- codingdave 3mo ago
  > for any Y Combinator-related purpose That is actually the key phrase. HN can provide the API, no problem. People can consume the API, no problem.. But I'd ask an attorney if API consumers can then re-release the data for purposes not related to YC. By my reading, they cannot.
  - moralestapia 3mo ago
    You might want to read it again, then: https://opensource.org/license/mit https://opensource.org/license/mit
    - codingdave 3mo ago
      That is about the software, not the data.
      - moralestapia 3mo ago
        While a literal reading of the MIT license refers to "software", many datasets have been released under it. In particular, if someone releases something that is only a dataset along with an MIT license file, the most reasonable interpretation is that the rights holder intended to release the data under the terms of that license. I looked for copyright cases involving this specific distinction, whether "data" versus "software" makes a legal difference, but didn’t find anything. So the question remains open (for you, for me it's pretty clear the dataset is released under MIT). You might want to sue and find out. It sounds like an interesting experiment.
        nairboon 3mo ago
        What exactly is released under MIT license?
linmer 3mo ago
Wait, so I have to ask for every single person's permissions to use this data? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
snowwrestler 3mo ago
Not sure if joking, but if this product is not republishing the text of your contributions (to which you hold copyright), you’re probably not going to convince a court to do anything here. Generally speaking it is not a violation to scrape, index, and analyze web content as long as you don’t republish copyrighted content without a license, or violate access controls. For example: search engine indexes.
jrflowers 3mo ago
Steve Carrell yelling “I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!” in The Office dot gif
- rvba 3mo ago
  Is this GDPR territory with fines up to EUR 10 million or 2% of a company’s global annual turnover? Not sure what are the fines for some random person though

pelagicAustral 3mo ago

You must be fun at parties

moralestapia 3mo ago

By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed. @zX41ZdbW, you can safely ignore this guy. @GeoAtreides, next time read the actual terms of service before hallucinating.

GeoAtreides 3mo ago
>Y Combinator and its affiliated companies is zX41ZdbW either?
- moralestapia 3mo ago
  Oh, now I see my comment might be a bit harsh. I didn't consider you might now know about: https://github.com/hackernews/api https://github.com/hackernews/api
  - GeoAtreides 3mo ago
    yes, and per HN terms and conditions only YC and YC affiliated (as you quoted) can use the api legally. I don't license my content to anyone else and so it shouldn't be use by anyone else, even if it's available on a free-for-all API (nice move HN, btw).
    - moralestapia 3mo ago
      https://github.com/HackerNews/API/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/HackerNews/API/blob/master/LICENSE It's right there, you just have to click the link I shared ...
      - GeoAtreides 3mo ago
        that's the license for the API, not the content/data the API serves
        jupr 3mo ago
        >including without limitation the rights to use 'use'...arguably the sole purpose of the API is to fetch the data. You are grasping at straws.
- fartcoin67 3mo ago
  [dead]
codingdave 3mo ago
> for any Y Combinator-related purpose That is actually the key phrase. HN can provide the API, no problem. People can consume the API, no problem.. But I'd ask an attorney if API consumers can then re-release the data for purposes not related to YC. By my reading, they cannot.
- moralestapia 3mo ago
  You might want to read it again, then: https://opensource.org/license/mit https://opensource.org/license/mit
  - codingdave 3mo ago
    That is about the software, not the data.
    - moralestapia 3mo ago
      While a literal reading of the MIT license refers to "software", many datasets have been released under it. In particular, if someone releases something that is only a dataset along with an MIT license file, the most reasonable interpretation is that the rights holder intended to release the data under the terms of that license. I looked for copyright cases involving this specific distinction, whether "data" versus "software" makes a legal difference, but didn’t find anything. So the question remains open (for you, for me it's pretty clear the dataset is released under MIT). You might want to sue and find out. It sounds like an interesting experiment.
      - nairboon 3mo ago
        What exactly is released under MIT license?

linmer 3mo ago

Wait, so I have to ask for every single person's permissions to use this data? uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

snowwrestler 3mo ago

Not sure if joking, but if this product is not republishing the text of your contributions (to which you hold copyright), you’re probably not going to convince a court to do anything here. Generally speaking it is not a violation to scrape, index, and analyze web content as long as you don’t republish copyrighted content without a license, or violate access controls. For example: search engine indexes.

jrflowers 3mo ago

Steve Carrell yelling “I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!” in The Office dot gif

rvba 3mo ago
Is this GDPR territory with fines up to EUR 10 million or 2% of a company’s global annual turnover? Not sure what are the fines for some random person though