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reddit started asking KYC yesterday. You (and me) can bitch all you want, but reddit has well prepared for us whining and being sad will change nothing. Mark

reddit started asking KYC yesterday. You (and me) can bitch all you want, but reddit has well prepared for us whining and being sad will change nothing. Mark my words: KYC will be required on HN in about two years. Not because dang will want it, but because that's the direction the world is going to.

simonask 4mo ago
It's weird because... I'm not the customer on either Reddit or HN. I'm the product.
- egorfine 4mo ago
  You can become a customer on reddit by purchasing subscription. I did. I like reddit. Doesn't matter. They want your passport.
  - kruffalon 4mo ago
    This is like saying you are the customer when you buy branded goods when in essence you are just paying to advertise the product for them. Very weird world we live in!
  - hightrix 4mo ago
    Reddit doesn’t even have my email. No way in hell will they get any real identification.
    - egorfine 4mo ago
      You realize people are uploading their docs to reddit by the millions, right?
      - mdp2021 4mo ago
        What do you mean? You do realize that "those" people have little to nothing to do with proper people, right? Of course people are deficient by the billions.
        egorfine 4mo ago
        And that means that largely nobody cares about us with our opinion. Internet WILL be completely KYCed and very soon. That's kind of inevitable.
        mdp2021 4mo ago
        We are the ones who build. We'll find a way. But the systemic clusterfuck must be fixed at some point. We can't mingle with the monkeys for too long.
        mdp2021 4mo ago
        > opinion Hypoteses non fingo (Newton) I deal with the objective. Such as, no Man accepts identification when accessing information. That is completely different from any "opinion".
- tim333 4mo ago
  It's a protect the kids law. Customer/product is irrelevant.
Cider9986 4mo ago
Reddit doesn't want to ask for KYC, they are required by law. Use a VPN, perhaps Mullvad or IVPN to appear to sites as if you are from a freer country (or state) to bypass the KYC.
- egorfine 4mo ago
  > they are required by law Yes I understand. They are better prepared to fight the surveillance state than I am. And yet they caved in instead of putting out some resistance.
qwertox 4mo ago
> us whining and being sad will change nothing For me, ditching Reddit was what changed.
- egorfine 4mo ago
  Yeah... I have been reading threads upon threads of normies who discussed how to take better pictures of their passports to submit to Persona in order to keep using reddit. We are clearly the minority and reddit is happy to pay the price of us leaving the platform.
kklisura 4mo ago
Maybe dang doesn't want it, but his boss definitely wants it. Garry Tan, president & CEO of YC, on Flock support: "You're thinking Chinese surveillance US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims" [1] The tech/VC people want it, because that's where the money will be. [1] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955 https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955
- egorfine 4mo ago
  This is new to me. Very sad.
  - deleted 4mo ago
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- kklisura 4mo ago
  "Anthropic to require age verification via Persona" [1] Oh Persona is also used on Reddit [2]. Persona. A YC backed company. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48628264 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48628264 [2] https://help.withpersona.com/articles/7F6BaF9h8Fxf0XWkwQscXN/ https://help.withpersona.com/articles/7F6BaF9h8Fxf0XWkwQscXN...
  - tough 4mo ago
    A Vibes backed company too, it seems.[1] [1] https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verificat...
- elektronika 4mo ago
  Right, it's dystopian if they do it, but utopian if we do. If anything I'd trust Chinese surveillance more. It's accountable to the government not the whims of profit motive and private individuals.
mdp2021 4mo ago
> will be required on HN in about We moved here because it was the best place available: we'd move elsewhere in case this place will not be available.
- egorfine 4mo ago
  Nah. HN users just like the rest of the normies will happily oblige and upload their passports. It's just that a small minority will continue to protect child abuse^W^W^Wresist utopia.
  - nmeagent 4mo ago
    > HN users just like the rest of the normies will happily oblige and upload their passports. Speak for yourself; I would drop HN like a bad habit and never look back.
    - egorfine 4mo ago
      I would drop HN with a very very sad and I will look forward for the day the madness stops. But yes, we're not normies.

simonask 4mo ago

It's weird because... I'm not the customer on either Reddit or HN. I'm the product.

egorfine 4mo ago
You can become a customer on reddit by purchasing subscription. I did. I like reddit. Doesn't matter. They want your passport.
- kruffalon 4mo ago
  This is like saying you are the customer when you buy branded goods when in essence you are just paying to advertise the product for them. Very weird world we live in!
- hightrix 4mo ago
  Reddit doesn’t even have my email. No way in hell will they get any real identification.
  - egorfine 4mo ago
    You realize people are uploading their docs to reddit by the millions, right?
    - mdp2021 4mo ago
      What do you mean? You do realize that "those" people have little to nothing to do with proper people, right? Of course people are deficient by the billions.
      - egorfine 4mo ago
        And that means that largely nobody cares about us with our opinion. Internet WILL be completely KYCed and very soon. That's kind of inevitable.
        mdp2021 4mo ago
        We are the ones who build. We'll find a way. But the systemic clusterfuck must be fixed at some point. We can't mingle with the monkeys for too long.
        mdp2021 4mo ago
        > opinion Hypoteses non fingo (Newton) I deal with the objective. Such as, no Man accepts identification when accessing information. That is completely different from any "opinion".
tim333 4mo ago
It's a protect the kids law. Customer/product is irrelevant.

Cider9986 4mo ago

Reddit doesn't want to ask for KYC, they are required by law. Use a VPN, perhaps Mullvad or IVPN to appear to sites as if you are from a freer country (or state) to bypass the KYC.

egorfine 4mo ago
> they are required by law Yes I understand. They are better prepared to fight the surveillance state than I am. And yet they caved in instead of putting out some resistance.

qwertox 4mo ago

> us whining and being sad will change nothing For me, ditching Reddit was what changed.

egorfine 4mo ago
Yeah... I have been reading threads upon threads of normies who discussed how to take better pictures of their passports to submit to Persona in order to keep using reddit. We are clearly the minority and reddit is happy to pay the price of us leaving the platform.

kklisura 4mo ago

Maybe dang doesn't want it, but his boss definitely wants it. Garry Tan, president & CEO of YC, on Flock support: "You're thinking Chinese surveillance US-based surveillance helps victims and prevents more victims" [1] The tech/VC people want it, because that's where the money will be. [1] https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955 https://x.com/garrytan/status/1963310592615485955

egorfine 4mo ago
This is new to me. Very sad.
- deleted 4mo ago
  [deleted]
kklisura 4mo ago
"Anthropic to require age verification via Persona" [1] Oh Persona is also used on Reddit [2]. Persona. A YC backed company. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48628264 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48628264 [2] https://help.withpersona.com/articles/7F6BaF9h8Fxf0XWkwQscXN/ https://help.withpersona.com/articles/7F6BaF9h8Fxf0XWkwQscXN...
- tough 4mo ago
  A Vibes backed company too, it seems.[1] [1] https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verificat...
elektronika 4mo ago
Right, it's dystopian if they do it, but utopian if we do. If anything I'd trust Chinese surveillance more. It's accountable to the government not the whims of profit motive and private individuals.

mdp2021 4mo ago

> will be required on HN in about We moved here because it was the best place available: we'd move elsewhere in case this place will not be available.

egorfine 4mo ago
Nah. HN users just like the rest of the normies will happily oblige and upload their passports. It's just that a small minority will continue to protect child abuse^W^W^Wresist utopia.
- nmeagent 4mo ago
  > HN users just like the rest of the normies will happily oblige and upload their passports. Speak for yourself; I would drop HN like a bad habit and never look back.
  - egorfine 4mo ago
    I would drop HN with a very very sad and I will look forward for the day the madness stops. But yes, we're not normies.