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Hmm wasn't Dolphin taken down by Nintendo or something? I seem to remember being sad at the loss.

by stavros 4mo ago

poly2it 4mo ago
I think that was Citra emulator. Protect Dolphin at all costs! Nintendo (among other creative corporations) do not seem to realise that invite to play creates an attachment to the product that is deeper than a license agreement, which is our shared cultural filament.
bspammer 4mo ago
You're likely thinking of Yuzu which was a switch emulator. Nintendo probably targeted them because they were about to launch the switch 2 and wanted to send a message.
- hecifato 4mo ago
  It being a Switch emulator certainly didn't help. However, the primary reason Nintendo went after Yuzu was that Yuzu devs were openly accepting payment for special updates to run Tears of the Kingdom. TOTK was, at the time, only available because of a leak and had not officially released.
  - ls612 4mo ago
    This is misinformation spread by the lawsuit. It was a 3rd party fork that added the code to make TOTK work before release (GPL software and all that). And the payments were orthogonal to Nintendo’s claims that the emulator was illegal, only a part of them saying how much damages they were owed.
  - KHRZ 4mo ago
    They also shut down Ryujinx at the same time by simply pressurimg the creator. So it was just an excuse they used.
sedawkgrep 4mo ago
The switch emulators Yuzu or Ryujinx perhaps?
- stavros 4mo ago
  Ahh yes, it might have been Yuzu, thanks!
TheMode 4mo ago
They planned to release on steam but Nintendo prevented it. The project however still exist standalone.
noirscape 4mo ago
You're probably thinking of the Steam debacle. Nintendo wasn't responsible for that. What happened was that Dolphins developers wanted to release the emulator on Steam. Valve, independently from anyone else, send a message to Nintendo's legal team asking if they think it's permissible to distribute Dolphin on Steam. Nintendo's lawyers essentially responded with the company's policy on emulation ("third parties doing emulation is not okay") and that they might consider looking into their options should Dolphin release on Steam. After that, Valve told the Dolphin developers that the game was banned from Steam. Nobody send any legal threats or anything; no C&D was issued, no DMCA invoked, no lawsuits, nothing. As far as the legal side of things is considered, the only thing that happened is that a business refused to do business with someone. (Which is generally their right to do, as long as it's not because that someone belongs to a protected class and being an emulation developer is not a protected class.) That's why Dolphin's devs also effectively had no recourse, even if they could pay the necessary lawyers. You can't force someone else to sell/publish your stuff.

Hmm wasn't Dolphin taken down by Nintendo or something? I seem to remember being sad at the loss.

by stavros 4mo ago

Hmm wasn't Dolphin taken down by Nintendo or something? I seem to remember being sad at the loss.

I think that was Citra emulator. Protect Dolphin at all costs! Nintendo (among other creative corporations) do not seem to realise that invite to play creates an attachment to the product that is deeper than a license agreement, which is our shared cultural filament.

bspammer 4mo ago

You're likely thinking of Yuzu which was a switch emulator. Nintendo probably targeted them because they were about to launch the switch 2 and wanted to send a message.

hecifato 4mo ago
It being a Switch emulator certainly didn't help. However, the primary reason Nintendo went after Yuzu was that Yuzu devs were openly accepting payment for special updates to run Tears of the Kingdom. TOTK was, at the time, only available because of a leak and had not officially released.
- ls612 4mo ago
  This is misinformation spread by the lawsuit. It was a 3rd party fork that added the code to make TOTK work before release (GPL software and all that). And the payments were orthogonal to Nintendo’s claims that the emulator was illegal, only a part of them saying how much damages they were owed.
- KHRZ 4mo ago
  They also shut down Ryujinx at the same time by simply pressurimg the creator. So it was just an excuse they used.

sedawkgrep 4mo ago

The switch emulators Yuzu or Ryujinx perhaps?

stavros 4mo ago
Ahh yes, it might have been Yuzu, thanks!

TheMode 4mo ago

They planned to release on steam but Nintendo prevented it. The project however still exist standalone.

noirscape 4mo ago

You're probably thinking of the Steam debacle. Nintendo wasn't responsible for that. What happened was that Dolphins developers wanted to release the emulator on Steam. Valve, independently from anyone else, send a message to Nintendo's legal team asking if they think it's permissible to distribute Dolphin on Steam. Nintendo's lawyers essentially responded with the company's policy on emulation ("third parties doing emulation is not okay") and that they might consider looking into their options should Dolphin release on Steam. After that, Valve told the Dolphin developers that the game was banned from Steam. Nobody send any legal threats or anything; no C&D was issued, no DMCA invoked, no lawsuits, nothing. As far as the legal side of things is considered, the only thing that happened is that a business refused to do business with someone. (Which is generally their right to do, as long as it's not because that someone belongs to a protected class and being an emulation developer is not a protected class.) That's why Dolphin's devs also effectively had no recourse, even if they could pay the necessary lawyers. You can't force someone else to sell/publish your stuff.