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Have you stopped for a second to consider the utter mathematical absurdity of what you’re suggesting here? It is impossible for a datacenter to meaningfully he
by joxdosba 3mo ago
Have you stopped for a second to consider the utter mathematical absurdity of what you’re suggesting here?
It is impossible for a datacenter to meaningfully heat more than the air in its immediate vicinity.
- NewsaHackO 3mo agoIt’s anti AI, so people would actually believe the data centers are going to singlehandly melt the icecaps
- xphos 3mo agoWell I mean not from the waste heat but they have expectations of GigaWatts of new sustained power because they always want to run. The US has on order of 1-2 Tera watts of power capacity so you are talking about .1% of the grid power if a hyperscalar datacenter takes 1 gig of power. I've seen projections of need 50-100 new gigs of capacity. We will see if that actually happens but if it does we are talk 5% increase in grid loading. It sounds small but that is a tremendous about of power. I mean there are a lot of solutions to making more power or making more efficient chips but to trivialize the impacts of AI as anti Ai propaganda which is how this comment comes of its a bit propaganda minded itself. I think backlash to AI is direct result of strawmaninh Anti AI as having only deranged opinions and anti progress. Where the datacenters are located people suffer because of high velocity don't care about consequences thinking. Every industry has to planing around people or people will do something crazy like burn the centers or try and nationalize data centers. I definitely think that would be stupid but don't underestimate stupid
- tehjoker 3mo agonothing wrong with nationalizing
- sidibe 3mo agoThis has also one of the arguments against AC in France, shame on you for wanting to moving the hot air from inside to outside.
- joxdosba 3mo agoIt’s pretty incredible, especially given that the free education in France is actually rather decent.
- prmoustache 3mo agoA few AC is one thing. Many AC in a limited space covered in concrete with almost zero tree in the area is another thing. We need to be more specific about what we are talking about. Anyway ACs are not enough in a city. ideally you also want streets with a significant amount of trees and greenery so that there is significant shade and heat from sunlight doesn't radiate too much from concrete/pavement.
- joxdosba 3mo agoFrance is not under threat from this.
- stevenhuang 3mo agoIt's not a uniquely France thing. It's called heat islands, it's a real thing that happens in dense metros. Very funny to deride France education when you are the ignorant one here.
- f6v 3mo agoWell, you can wait for greenery to be planted and grow around houses. It'll take 10-20 years. Or you can wait for your landlord to install the shutters (will never happen). Alternatively, you can get a portable inefficient AC and save yourself from 40 degree heat in a rooftop apartment. The mental toll of sweating 24/7 for months is just too big to theorize about the best way to combat global warming.
- B1FF_PSUVM 3mo agoThey're also missing the winter bit, where an AC heatpump needs three ou four times less energy than a resistive heater ... oh well.
- abc123abc123 3mo agoSilence! Do not let fact and reason stop the woke or anti-AI agenda! Only emotions count in this space!
- greenpizza13 3mo agoWoke != anti-ai. Separate ideas. I’m pro AI and would be considered woke, which I would not use pejoratively.