6 ms·
> There is probably a market for Deepseek/GLM served from non CCP available servers. I might even look into how hard that would be to setup here. Please do. Th
by SyneRyder 4mo ago
> There is probably a market for Deepseek/GLM served from non CCP available servers. I might even look into how hard that would be to setup here.
Please do. There is definitely a market for Deepseek / GLM hosted from non-China servers, there's over 20 providers for GLM 5.2 on OpenRouter alone... and they're all either Singapore (home of Z.AI / GLM), China, or US. There is nothing yet listed on OpenRouter from Europe (Inceptron still only has GLM 5.1). And of course, there is absolutely nothing hosted in Australia.
We're in a particularly dire situation in Australia. We're about to be cut off from Claude Fable and premium American models. The European Mistral models are garbage, at least in comparison to US models. Our only hope is going to be Chinese models (GLM 5.2 is good), and we're not even hosting them in Australia.
By the way, if you haven't tried an Anthropic model, it's worth spending at least $20 one month to give Opus 4.8 a try. I only got one night of access to Fable before I was cut off, but one single evening of Fable provided plans that I've been working through for about a week afterwards with Opus 4.8... and that was only Fable, not even Mythos. That's the kind of intelligence lead Australia is about to be cut off from.
(And kudos on the Containers For Change, that's something I do as well - mostly as an exercise incentive to walk to the local recycling machine, because the money certainly doesn't compensate for the time spent on the recycling.)
- Sanzig 4mo agoSame issue in Canada - domestic inference capability for the open models is woefully behind.
- trollbridge 4mo agoCanada has fewer excuses, given sparsely populated places that are cold with nearly infinite water and extremely cheap electricity.
- Sanzig 4mo agoYep, agreed. Main issue in Canada is a notoriously slow and stingy investment ecosystem. Resource-wise we're incredibly well positioned.
- forshaper 4mo agoWould you happen to know why there are so many Canadian investments in American telecom?
- trollbridge 4mo agoCanadian telecom is very obstructionist to outside investment and basically structured around rent seeking for exisiting telecoms. American telecom lets basically anyone come here and spend money.
- trollbridge 4mo agoCanadian firms can easily access U.S. capital markets. So the question remains of why we aren’t building all kinds of data centers out in the tundra next to giant hydro plants.
- trollbridge 4mo agoHosting in Australia is not feasible at Australian electricity prices. (Speaking as a not-so-proud Australian.)
- Mossy9 4mo agoCortecs (EU router) lists GLM 5.2 from Tensorix and Nebius https://cortecs.ai/detailedServerlessView/glm-5.2 https://cortecs.ai/detailedServerlessView/glm-5.2 So two European providers at least
- SyneRyder 4mo agoThank you, I haven't heard of Cortecs before. Might see if I can integrate this into my harness, or at least wire up Tensorix. Also, I don't know how accurate that tokens/per/second measure for GLM 5.2 is, but if that is even remotely true, then I won't complain about the mild markup Tensorix have for GLM ;) Thank you for the heads-up!