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One reason that alcohol is so popular is that it is easily, legally obtainable, and a social drug, unlike (say) heroin, which this article seems not to mention

by zabzonk 4mo ago

One reason that alcohol is so popular is that it is easily, legally obtainable, and a social drug, unlike (say) heroin, which this article seems not to mention (I may have missed it)and might have done less damage (look at the long-lived William S Burroughs).

squishington 4mo ago
Burroughs came from an upper middle class background. People with money are sometimes able to avoid some of the health dangers that come with heroin use. It's the heroin users who are poor that end up with the worst health outcomes. Malnutrition and risk of infection for example. Not being able to look after yourself because you have no money left.
manarth 4mo ago
Perhaps partly because heroin was late to the party. It was identified/extracted in 1874 and only had around 40 year of legal use before controls came in. Compared to opium and alcohol where consumption dates back thousands of years.
pixel_popping 4mo ago
With alcohol, most people are dishonest about it, most don't call it a drug which is quite worrisome and people addicted to that drug don't even consider themselves drug addicts, there has been such a lobby in communication around the separation of "Drugs" and "Alcohol" and people have fell for it hard. Literal propaganda :/ Even today, we can find mostly older people that refuse to call themselves drug users and literally insult "other type of drug" users despite literally being one and consuming a drug on a daily basis.
- SubmarineClub 4mo ago
  Because normal people are using the term as a short-hand. It doesn’t seem especially useful to lump everyone from coffee drinkers to people using antibiotics to people shooting up fentanyl all together, so I don’t really see the point in insisting on such a literal use of the the term.
  - pixel_popping 4mo ago
    They don't use it as short-hand, very truthfully if you ask them if they are drug users, they'll say no, and when we say drug user, we understand that we don't mean antibiotics but an addictive drug of some kind. It's important to insist so people really understand that the damage is as bad as "drugs" (even worse in many cases) and that would allow to start having wine and spirit bottles and so-on at least have to deadly labels like cigarettes, which might make people slow down their consumption.

by zabzonk 4mo ago

squishington 4mo ago

Burroughs came from an upper middle class background. People with money are sometimes able to avoid some of the health dangers that come with heroin use. It's the heroin users who are poor that end up with the worst health outcomes. Malnutrition and risk of infection for example. Not being able to look after yourself because you have no money left.

manarth 4mo ago

Perhaps partly because heroin was late to the party. It was identified/extracted in 1874 and only had around 40 year of legal use before controls came in. Compared to opium and alcohol where consumption dates back thousands of years.

pixel_popping 4mo ago

With alcohol, most people are dishonest about it, most don't call it a drug which is quite worrisome and people addicted to that drug don't even consider themselves drug addicts, there has been such a lobby in communication around the separation of "Drugs" and "Alcohol" and people have fell for it hard. Literal propaganda :/ Even today, we can find mostly older people that refuse to call themselves drug users and literally insult "other type of drug" users despite literally being one and consuming a drug on a daily basis.

SubmarineClub 4mo ago
Because normal people are using the term as a short-hand. It doesn’t seem especially useful to lump everyone from coffee drinkers to people using antibiotics to people shooting up fentanyl all together, so I don’t really see the point in insisting on such a literal use of the the term.
- pixel_popping 4mo ago
  They don't use it as short-hand, very truthfully if you ask them if they are drug users, they'll say no, and when we say drug user, we understand that we don't mean antibiotics but an addictive drug of some kind. It's important to insist so people really understand that the damage is as bad as "drugs" (even worse in many cases) and that would allow to start having wine and spirit bottles and so-on at least have to deadly labels like cigarettes, which might make people slow down their consumption.