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DeepSeek permanently cut its V4-pro API prices by 75% because they were too expensive. Without the price cut, Deepseek V4-pro tokens would have cost more than r

DeepSeek permanently cut its V4-pro API prices by 75% because they were too expensive. Without the price cut, Deepseek V4-pro tokens would have cost more than resold Opus 4.8 tokens. Opus 4.8 is a more capable model, so almost nobody was going to pay for V4-pro at the original price.

ammo1662 4mo ago
China also have trust issue with American companies. Most of State-owned companies will not use those services even if they can directly access them.
- nekusar 4mo ago
  And? The US feds wont allow even local Qwen or Deepseek models either. "Evul godless commies" or some such nonsense.
ffsm8 4mo ago
Urm, no? I man they did cut prices by 75% that part is true - but they reduced a starting price that was below sonnet. Also it's a open weight model, doing that is impossible long term because the real price will be set by the other model providers, who priced it around 60% of sonnet inference cost. Had to look that up though, so that's today's pricing.
- furyofantares 4mo ago
  Is there a contradiction here? If resold Opus tokens are sold at a 93% discount, you can be a lot cheaper than Sonnet while also a lot more expensive than resold Opus tokens.
  - ffsm8 4mo ago
    I see, After rereading the comment I was responding to I realized I probably misread/misinterpreted what they wanted to convey. I think there isn't a contradiction and I was just confused. The price may have been discounted only to get below the price point of opus resellers. I do not have enough information on that to make any clear determination on that topic.
ValentineC 4mo ago
If other providers can match Deepseek's first party prices, that probably means that the economics for running inferencing work out for them.
ssivark 4mo ago
> Without the price cut, Deepseek V4-pro tokens would have cost more than resold Opus 4.8 tokens. You mean it's functionally as if American tokens are being price dumped in China and Chinese model providers are being forced to compete with that and innovate? So many delicious layers of irony, lol :-P

ammo1662 4mo ago

China also have trust issue with American companies. Most of State-owned companies will not use those services even if they can directly access them.

nekusar 4mo ago
And? The US feds wont allow even local Qwen or Deepseek models either. "Evul godless commies" or some such nonsense.

ffsm8 4mo ago

Urm, no? I man they did cut prices by 75% that part is true - but they reduced a starting price that was below sonnet. Also it's a open weight model, doing that is impossible long term because the real price will be set by the other model providers, who priced it around 60% of sonnet inference cost. Had to look that up though, so that's today's pricing.

furyofantares 4mo ago
Is there a contradiction here? If resold Opus tokens are sold at a 93% discount, you can be a lot cheaper than Sonnet while also a lot more expensive than resold Opus tokens.
- ffsm8 4mo ago
  I see, After rereading the comment I was responding to I realized I probably misread/misinterpreted what they wanted to convey. I think there isn't a contradiction and I was just confused. The price may have been discounted only to get below the price point of opus resellers. I do not have enough information on that to make any clear determination on that topic.

ValentineC 4mo ago

If other providers can match Deepseek's first party prices, that probably means that the economics for running inferencing work out for them.

ssivark 4mo ago

> Without the price cut, Deepseek V4-pro tokens would have cost more than resold Opus 4.8 tokens. You mean it's functionally as if American tokens are being price dumped in China and Chinese model providers are being forced to compete with that and innovate? So many delicious layers of irony, lol :-P