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Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more. And to answer your question, most consumers don't care. The convenience of being able to buy

Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more. And to answer your question, most consumers don't care. The convenience of being able to buy with a few clicks and download immediately without going to a store or waiting for the mail is far more beneficial to most people than being able to locally archive or replay in 20 years.

mrmattyboy 4mo ago
> Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more. This is a totally fair point and literally something I haven't even considered. > most consumers don't care I know.. I know.. I mostly commented because the linked article _does_ speak about it and that it implied people weren't happy (mostly for re-sell not for archival purposes). But, yes, I get that
Maxatar 4mo ago
PS5 and XBox support Blu-ray discs with capacities up to 100 GB. Both GTA V and GTA IV used multiple discs (there was an installation disc and a play disc). Heck the PC version of GTA V required 7 DVDs: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/18hkrvj/you_can_still_buy_brand_new_physical_versions_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/18hkrvj/you_c...
- ethbr1 4mo ago
  The bigger difficulty comes from the increasing complexity of games (feature wise) and their release state. It's effectively impossible to release a "gold version" game to the quality standards of ~1990 physical media, in 2026. The surface area for potential gameplay bugs is too large: it'd take another decade of QA polish. So even if you have physical media for the release day version of a game, what can you do with that? Play a buggy version? To GP's point about post-release physical editions, it makes more sense to sell something later that rolls up the most critical post-release patches and content.
  - tencentshill 4mo ago
    If the game they release on a physical disk is unplayably buggy, do they owe you a refund? Even if online updates make it perfect? They can't require that you play it online unless its not even available physically.
  - Maxatar 4mo ago
    This doesn't track with actual game releases, on the contrary it tends to be smaller/simpler games that release exclusively digitally and the big triple A games continue to release physical discs. As far as bugs go, the solution for this has been and continues to be that after you install the game from the disc, you download a patch to update it. It's been this way for almost 20 years now (XBox 360 and PS3 both launched with explicit support for this).
    - Arainach 4mo ago
      > big triple A games continue to release physical discs. Technically correct, but not really correct. It's hard to think of a game in the last decade where I've inserted a physical disk an been able to play without having to download a giant update first. Sometimes literally impossible - the installer disk isn't a complete game until you download an update
      - Maxatar 4mo ago
        My post contains two sentences... for some reason you completely disregarded the second one. For the sake of participating in a discussion, avoid doing that in the future.

mrmattyboy 4mo ago

> Physical media doesn't work when modern games are 100GB or more. This is a totally fair point and literally something I haven't even considered. > most consumers don't care I know.. I know.. I mostly commented because the linked article _does_ speak about it and that it implied people weren't happy (mostly for re-sell not for archival purposes). But, yes, I get that

Maxatar 4mo ago

PS5 and XBox support Blu-ray discs with capacities up to 100 GB. Both GTA V and GTA IV used multiple discs (there was an installation disc and a play disc). Heck the PC version of GTA V required 7 DVDs: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/18hkrvj/you_can_still_buy_brand_new_physical_versions_of/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/18hkrvj/you_c...

ethbr1 4mo ago
The bigger difficulty comes from the increasing complexity of games (feature wise) and their release state. It's effectively impossible to release a "gold version" game to the quality standards of ~1990 physical media, in 2026. The surface area for potential gameplay bugs is too large: it'd take another decade of QA polish. So even if you have physical media for the release day version of a game, what can you do with that? Play a buggy version? To GP's point about post-release physical editions, it makes more sense to sell something later that rolls up the most critical post-release patches and content.
- tencentshill 4mo ago
  If the game they release on a physical disk is unplayably buggy, do they owe you a refund? Even if online updates make it perfect? They can't require that you play it online unless its not even available physically.
- Maxatar 4mo ago
  This doesn't track with actual game releases, on the contrary it tends to be smaller/simpler games that release exclusively digitally and the big triple A games continue to release physical discs. As far as bugs go, the solution for this has been and continues to be that after you install the game from the disc, you download a patch to update it. It's been this way for almost 20 years now (XBox 360 and PS3 both launched with explicit support for this).
  - Arainach 4mo ago
    > big triple A games continue to release physical discs. Technically correct, but not really correct. It's hard to think of a game in the last decade where I've inserted a physical disk an been able to play without having to download a giant update first. Sometimes literally impossible - the installer disk isn't a complete game until you download an update
    - Maxatar 4mo ago
      My post contains two sentences... for some reason you completely disregarded the second one. For the sake of participating in a discussion, avoid doing that in the future.