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That last one’s going to need some substantiation. “In the ordinary course of providing our service, WhatsApp does not store messages once they are delivered o

That last one’s going to need some substantiation. “In the ordinary course of providing our service, WhatsApp does not store messages once they are delivered or transaction logs of such delivered messages. Undelivered messages are deleted from our servers after 30 days. As stated in the WhatsApp Privacy Policy, we may collect, use, preserve, and share user information if we have a good-faith belief that it is reasonably necessary to (a) keep our users safe, (b) detect, investigate, and prevent illegal activity, (c) respond to legal process, or to government requests, (d) enforce our Terms and policies. This may include information about how some users interact with others on our service. We also offer end-to-end encryption for our services, which is always activated. End-to-end encryption means that messages are encrypted to protect against WhatsApp and third parties from reading them.” (https://faq.whatsapp.com/444002211197967 https://faq.whatsapp.com/444002211197967)

inigyou 4mo ago
I believe it was the automatic unencrypted weekly data upload to Google Drive
- otterley 4mo ago
  Can you post a link?
  - inigyou 4mo ago
    No. It's a special arrangement between Google and WhatsApp which makes a file only visible to WhatsApp, and not appear in your regular drive so you can't do normal cloud file operations like generating public links.
    - otterley 4mo ago
      Without evidence of this “special arrangement” I don’t see why anyone should believe you. You made a claim that is directly contrary to WhatsApp’s published materials and they have a lot to lose if you are correct. On the other hand, if your accusation is false, it’s tantamount to libel.
      - inigyou 4mo ago
        How's this? Not sure if it's the same issue but it's much more damning than the one I knew about. https://www.techspot.com/news/112232-federal-agent-whatsapp-encryption-lie-investigation-shut-down.html https://www.techspot.com/news/112232-federal-agent-whatsapp-... You know how I found this link? Googling WhatsApp encryption backdoor. You could have too.
        otterley 4mo ago
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        x______________ 4mo ago
        > You know how I found this link? Googling WhatsApp encryption backdoor. You could have too. No need for the attitude. Op asked you for a source, which is customary for one to back up their initial claim; an onus on you and not for someone else to validate your claims.
        zer0zzz 4mo ago
        All I asked for was specific examples while acknowledging what I hated about the platforms progression.
        x______________ 4mo ago
        I'm not sure why you're replying to me, my comment was for the person I replied to and whom I quoted (inigyou)
        otterley 4mo ago
        My guess is that this person is using multiple HN accounts and is getting them mixed up.
        x______________ 4mo ago
    - marysol5 4mo ago
      It's not a "Special Arrangement", it's a feature in Google Drive when an app does a backup rather than "upload".

inigyou 4mo ago

I believe it was the automatic unencrypted weekly data upload to Google Drive

otterley 4mo ago
Can you post a link?
- inigyou 4mo ago
  No. It's a special arrangement between Google and WhatsApp which makes a file only visible to WhatsApp, and not appear in your regular drive so you can't do normal cloud file operations like generating public links.
  - otterley 4mo ago
    Without evidence of this “special arrangement” I don’t see why anyone should believe you. You made a claim that is directly contrary to WhatsApp’s published materials and they have a lot to lose if you are correct. On the other hand, if your accusation is false, it’s tantamount to libel.
    - inigyou 4mo ago
      How's this? Not sure if it's the same issue but it's much more damning than the one I knew about. https://www.techspot.com/news/112232-federal-agent-whatsapp-encryption-lie-investigation-shut-down.html https://www.techspot.com/news/112232-federal-agent-whatsapp-... You know how I found this link? Googling WhatsApp encryption backdoor. You could have too.
      - otterley 4mo ago
        [dead]
      - x______________ 4mo ago
        > You know how I found this link? Googling WhatsApp encryption backdoor. You could have too. No need for the attitude. Op asked you for a source, which is customary for one to back up their initial claim; an onus on you and not for someone else to validate your claims.
        zer0zzz 4mo ago
        All I asked for was specific examples while acknowledging what I hated about the platforms progression.
        x______________ 4mo ago
        I'm not sure why you're replying to me, my comment was for the person I replied to and whom I quoted (inigyou)
        otterley 4mo ago
        My guess is that this person is using multiple HN accounts and is getting them mixed up.
        x______________ 4mo ago
  - marysol5 4mo ago
    It's not a "Special Arrangement", it's a feature in Google Drive when an app does a backup rather than "upload".