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Sounds utterly ridiculous I agree but there's something to be said for 60+ years of muscle memory, otherwise olds rocketing motorhomes off of cliffs or augering

Sounds utterly ridiculous I agree but there's something to be said for 60+ years of muscle memory, otherwise olds rocketing motorhomes off of cliffs or augering into the side of the local walmart would feature more prominently in the local news. Quit picking on paw paw and keep the fight where it belongs: suburbanite pavement princesses must die.

ValentinPearce 4mo ago
There are also countries that reduce the time a license is valid starting at a certain age and that require a medical test for renewal at all ages. IIRC Spain does that.
- forgetfreeman 4mo ago
  Or you know you could just veer entirely off-topic and turn this into some kind of ageist food fight. That's an option too I suppose.
  - SubmarineClub 4mo ago
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    - ultrarunner 4mo ago
      To do that you have to first recognize that current city designs are 100% for car manufacturers, not people. To take away the olds licenses is to restrict them in their homes, like people under already are. It's freedom they're after. Change the culture around freedom of movement, and I guarantee the olds will give up their keys before they're even old.
    - forgetfreeman 4mo ago
      "Olds are some of the worst drivers on the road" A bold claim, let's see if accident statistics back it. "Drivers 65 to 74 account for 13.6% of licensed drivers, but represent only 7.6% of drivers in all crashes" "Sixteen- to 19-year-olds represent 3.8% of licensed drivers, but account for 8.8% of drivers in all crashes" Nope, guess not. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/age-of-driver/ https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/age-of-dr...
Der_Einzige 4mo ago
No paw paw can go to hell where they belong.
- forgetfreeman 3mo ago
  I hope you live to be 90. :)
  - encrypted_bird 3mo ago
    Exactly. A lot of these people forget that they will be old too someday. Treat the elderly like shit now, you'll be treated like shit later. (Also, I love the Half-Life reference in your username btw. ;) )

ValentinPearce 4mo ago

There are also countries that reduce the time a license is valid starting at a certain age and that require a medical test for renewal at all ages. IIRC Spain does that.

forgetfreeman 4mo ago
Or you know you could just veer entirely off-topic and turn this into some kind of ageist food fight. That's an option too I suppose.
- SubmarineClub 4mo ago
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  - ultrarunner 4mo ago
    To do that you have to first recognize that current city designs are 100% for car manufacturers, not people. To take away the olds licenses is to restrict them in their homes, like people under already are. It's freedom they're after. Change the culture around freedom of movement, and I guarantee the olds will give up their keys before they're even old.
  - forgetfreeman 4mo ago
    "Olds are some of the worst drivers on the road" A bold claim, let's see if accident statistics back it. "Drivers 65 to 74 account for 13.6% of licensed drivers, but represent only 7.6% of drivers in all crashes" "Sixteen- to 19-year-olds represent 3.8% of licensed drivers, but account for 8.8% of drivers in all crashes" Nope, guess not. https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/age-of-driver/ https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/age-of-dr...

Der_Einzige 4mo ago

No paw paw can go to hell where they belong.

forgetfreeman 3mo ago
I hope you live to be 90. :)
- encrypted_bird 3mo ago
  Exactly. A lot of these people forget that they will be old too someday. Treat the elderly like shit now, you'll be treated like shit later. (Also, I love the Half-Life reference in your username btw. ;) )