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Some years ago people also said “Japanese bears are harmless, shy and fear humans” and now the country is experiencing a slowly approaching bear-pocalypse, with

Some years ago people also said “Japanese bears are harmless, shy and fear humans” and now the country is experiencing a slowly approaching bear-pocalypse, with bear attacks occurring in densely populated suburbs. I don’t see how wolves in Europe would be uniquely different if it follows the same trajectory. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj41vn9q81ko https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj41vn9q81ko

morkalork 3mo ago
And in Canada we've been having a moment with wolves littler cousin: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/child-bit-coyote-whitby-durham-police-9.7246085 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/child-bit-coyote-whit... https://ottawacitizen.com/news/orleans-park-closed-coyote-attack https://ottawacitizen.com/news/orleans-park-closed-coyote-at...
- FpUser 3mo ago
  I see those nearly daily. some of those are not that little. They've killed dogs and attacked humans. Government as usual does not give a flying fuck. Well I am pretty sure if one of them or their relative gets killed they would instantly declare a war against coyotes.
  - jltsiren 3mo ago
    The average dog is a greater danger to people than the average urban coyote, at least in the US. Mostly because dogs are not afraid of people, and because any moron is allowed to have a dog and train it badly.
  - albedoa 3mo ago
    Oh just they wait. They will be real sorry when this highly improbably event happens.
- gbraad 3mo ago
  Are you allowed to take precautionary actions, like a weapon or spray? As in Europe that is not even considered/disallowed for the safety of the animal.
focusgroup0 3mo ago
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gbraad 3mo ago
It is the ignorance or pleasing all attitude in the government that creates these situations. In the Netherlands they have a minority coalition, so they hand the other smaller parties whatever they want to get their vote. And what happens, they allow wolves to attack livestock and pets, as free-roaming wolves are more important than people... Until the day comes that it's not the dog that gets attacked, but a little boy or girl while walking the dog. They have already started to enter the borders of a few cities in the area where I am from in the Netherlands. Rightfully so, German shepherds have mentioned: "we thought the Dutch were smarter", as they allow this to happen without measures in place.
- pvaldes 3mo ago
  This is oversimplification of a complex issue. AKA populism. When in doubt, ask science about the whole picture. > free-roaming wolves are more important than people I'm sure that nobody said that, ever, in the Netherlands.
ottotarc 3mo ago
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morkalork 3mo ago

And in Canada we've been having a moment with wolves littler cousin: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/child-bit-coyote-whitby-durham-police-9.7246085 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/child-bit-coyote-whit... https://ottawacitizen.com/news/orleans-park-closed-coyote-attack https://ottawacitizen.com/news/orleans-park-closed-coyote-at...

FpUser 3mo ago
I see those nearly daily. some of those are not that little. They've killed dogs and attacked humans. Government as usual does not give a flying fuck. Well I am pretty sure if one of them or their relative gets killed they would instantly declare a war against coyotes.
- jltsiren 3mo ago
  The average dog is a greater danger to people than the average urban coyote, at least in the US. Mostly because dogs are not afraid of people, and because any moron is allowed to have a dog and train it badly.
- albedoa 3mo ago
  Oh just they wait. They will be real sorry when this highly improbably event happens.
gbraad 3mo ago
Are you allowed to take precautionary actions, like a weapon or spray? As in Europe that is not even considered/disallowed for the safety of the animal.

focusgroup0 3mo ago

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gbraad 3mo ago

It is the ignorance or pleasing all attitude in the government that creates these situations. In the Netherlands they have a minority coalition, so they hand the other smaller parties whatever they want to get their vote. And what happens, they allow wolves to attack livestock and pets, as free-roaming wolves are more important than people... Until the day comes that it's not the dog that gets attacked, but a little boy or girl while walking the dog. They have already started to enter the borders of a few cities in the area where I am from in the Netherlands. Rightfully so, German shepherds have mentioned: "we thought the Dutch were smarter", as they allow this to happen without measures in place.

pvaldes 3mo ago
This is oversimplification of a complex issue. AKA populism. When in doubt, ask science about the whole picture. > free-roaming wolves are more important than people I'm sure that nobody said that, ever, in the Netherlands.

ottotarc 3mo ago

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