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I think you're too cloae to take any criticism. Any result seems like it'd be a success to you.

esseph 3mo ago
Valve has been working toward this ecosystem for over a decade. This is a single product offering among a growing product line that provides access to their store. To be clear, their competitors are pretty pathetic. > I think you're too cloae to take any criticism I'm not even their target market, nor would I buy one when I can roll my own on my own hardware - even using SteamOS if I wanted. https://www.theverge.com/games/953411/valve-steamos-desktop-nvidia https://www.theverge.com/games/953411/valve-steamos-desktop-...
- foo12bar 3mo ago
  Their competitors are xbox and playstation and the cost is way more than each of these. You admit you won't even buy it because I guess you are too technologically inclined. And yet it's not a flop to you. Why? The fact they've worked on running games on linux for over a decade and still only have a 5% market cap does not bode well for them. This was supposed to be their great moment, and they ruined it with an expensive box with subpar performance. They should have waited. Now after the hype dies down and it doesn't sell, they'll just have another black eye they have to recover from. Look, I run linux and have for 30 years. I run games on linux and have steam on linux installed myself. But I'm not trying to fool myself and others that it's some great success story. It isn't.
  - esseph 3mo ago
    I guess time will tell. ;)
nisegami 3mo ago
I think most of the non-success outcomes involve an objectively bad experience, regardless of the price. Example of that would be a buggy system that feels more like a cut down PC than a console. From reviews, we see that this outcome doesn't seem to be the case. The other potential failure outcomes involve selling the product at a loss, or tying up too much cash in it and having liquidity issues while stock moves. Valve's cash flow is likely excellent, we know they're not selling it at a loss and we know they aren't producing too many. So overall, the possible outcomes all seem like different degrees of success.

Valve has been working toward this ecosystem for over a decade. This is a single product offering among a growing product line that provides access to their store. To be clear, their competitors are pretty pathetic. > I think you're too cloae to take any criticism I'm not even their target market, nor would I buy one when I can roll my own on my own hardware - even using SteamOS if I wanted. https://www.theverge.com/games/953411/valve-steamos-desktop-nvidia https://www.theverge.com/games/953411/valve-steamos-desktop-...

foo12bar 3mo ago
Their competitors are xbox and playstation and the cost is way more than each of these. You admit you won't even buy it because I guess you are too technologically inclined. And yet it's not a flop to you. Why? The fact they've worked on running games on linux for over a decade and still only have a 5% market cap does not bode well for them. This was supposed to be their great moment, and they ruined it with an expensive box with subpar performance. They should have waited. Now after the hype dies down and it doesn't sell, they'll just have another black eye they have to recover from. Look, I run linux and have for 30 years. I run games on linux and have steam on linux installed myself. But I'm not trying to fool myself and others that it's some great success story. It isn't.
- esseph 3mo ago
  I guess time will tell. ;)

nisegami 3mo ago

I think most of the non-success outcomes involve an objectively bad experience, regardless of the price. Example of that would be a buggy system that feels more like a cut down PC than a console. From reviews, we see that this outcome doesn't seem to be the case. The other potential failure outcomes involve selling the product at a loss, or tying up too much cash in it and having liquidity issues while stock moves. Valve's cash flow is likely excellent, we know they're not selling it at a loss and we know they aren't producing too many. So overall, the possible outcomes all seem like different degrees of success.