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They need to spend at least 3x that and they need to bring redundant workforce to fix Germany. It is completely broken now.

• JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
  > They need to spend at least 3x that According to whom?
  • okanat 4mo ago
    Look at how much Switzerland spends per capita vs Germany. €477 vs €115. And Swiss kept their infrastructure well unlike Germans. source: https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/themen/infrastruktur/investitionen/ https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/themen/infrastruktur/inve...
    • JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
      > Look at how much Switzerland spends per capita vs Germany. €477 vs €115 Your chart shows close to €200 spent by Deutschland per capita in 2024, before the abovementioned spending splurge (about €30/person/year). (The numbers 477 and 115 never appear in your source.) €230 in Berlin purchases about as much as €371 of CHF in Zürich [1]. So no, I’m not seeing evidence Germany needs to further 3x capital expenditure to unfuck its system, and that’s before observing it spends more than Italy per capita, and Italy’s intercity rail is fantastic. [1] https://www.paritydeals.com/ppp-calculator/switzerland-vs-germany/?salary=70000 https://www.paritydeals.com/ppp-calculator/switzerland-vs-ge...
      • penteract 4mo ago
        The number €115 is in the second chart as the per capita German expenditure on rail infrastructure in 2023. I don't see €477, but it's pretty close to the €480 figure for Switzerland in 2024. My guess is they saw an old version of the page when the first chart had numbers for 2023 and have kept using it without noticing the update.
        • jerven 4mo ago
          And the Swiss CFF also thinks it is under spending on maintenance. Track maintenance last year was nearly 20% from its target.
        • okanat 4mo ago
          Yeah sorry I was using the wrong page and outdated numbers from the infographic I have saved. Here is the picture my numbers came from: https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/container_steuerung-finanzierung-schieneninfrastruktur_web.png https://www.allianz-pro-schiene.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/1...
  • probably_wrong 4mo ago
    Here's an article (in German) from last year where Richard Lutz, boss at the time of Deutsche Bahn, says they needed at least twice as much as what they were getting: https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/mobilitaet/trotz-sondervermogens-bahnchef-warnt-vor-milliardenschwerer-finanzlucke-13944775.html https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/mobilitaet/trotz-sond... And here's an article (also in German) from this year about how the money that's been promised is not being delivered, leading to the cancelation of 90 projects. https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/es-fehlt-das-geld-mehr-als-90-wichtige-bahnprojekte-in-deutschland-offenbar-in-gefahr-15712600.html https://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/es-fehlt-das-geld-mehr-a... I also remember an article about how part of the train budget was being redistributed to fix highways, but I can't find it right now. So I agree with the parent comment: the current investment is not enough and what little they have is constantly being diverted.