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Coghead Grinds To A Halt, Heads To The Deadpool

releasedatez 18y ago
The burn rate for a lot of the startups are amazingly high. Is it really necessary to have such a high burn rate? What's considered a healthy burn rate?
- d13hard 18y ago
  these days it seems a lot of the burn rate is in sky-high salaries. employees seem to be treating the fund as a piggy bank. i've been speaking to a lot of VC-backed small ventures in the bay area and even in these times, $150k starting salary is not being balked at or even questioned. $150k seems to be the floor for negotiation with many. and thats for engineering...god only knows what the "ceo" is earning, likely $250k or more.
  - releasedatez 18y ago
    Wow... thanks for the insight.
  - herval 18y ago
    Aren't bigger salaries an offset to the risk? I mean, startups are riskier than 'solid companies' (well, not that much these days, but that's the premise), so it makes sense to offer more money for someone to 'jump in'... That or equity - but I suppose with current trend of companies going broke, equity doesn't seem like a good deal for most people...
joseakle 18y ago
Talk about technology risk. This is a clear barrier for adoption of enterprise apps, one day they are here the next they they are gone.
jedc 18y ago
This was a Guy Kawasaki/Garage.com funded company if I remember right. I've got mixed feelings about some of the companies he's funded/promoted/started, though his books are interesting.
- nikblack 18y ago
  Yes it was. Kawasaki has had a long long list of misses since the first bubble.. Coghead raised a lot of money, in the order of $12M+. in the end, they didn't have a whole lot to show considering how crowded this space is and that they had raised more money than anybody else. Could have funded 20-30 companies with those funds and probably found 2-3 winners. They did spend a lot on PR/marketing - I know because their people were hitting me up all the time.
  - teyc 18y ago
    Who are the competitors?
- herval 18y ago
  Guy is the Robert Kiyosaki of IT...
sahaj 18y ago
my ex-roommate worked at coghead. he says the company hadn't been doing well for a while (funding issues) and him and few of the originals had been running it on their own time.
bsaunder 18y ago
Wonder if they would consider open sourcing their engine?

The burn rate for a lot of the startups are amazingly high. Is it really necessary to have such a high burn rate? What's considered a healthy burn rate?

d13hard 18y ago
these days it seems a lot of the burn rate is in sky-high salaries. employees seem to be treating the fund as a piggy bank. i've been speaking to a lot of VC-backed small ventures in the bay area and even in these times, $150k starting salary is not being balked at or even questioned. $150k seems to be the floor for negotiation with many. and thats for engineering...god only knows what the "ceo" is earning, likely $250k or more.
- releasedatez 18y ago
  Wow... thanks for the insight.
- herval 18y ago
  Aren't bigger salaries an offset to the risk? I mean, startups are riskier than 'solid companies' (well, not that much these days, but that's the premise), so it makes sense to offer more money for someone to 'jump in'... That or equity - but I suppose with current trend of companies going broke, equity doesn't seem like a good deal for most people...

joseakle 18y ago

Talk about technology risk. This is a clear barrier for adoption of enterprise apps, one day they are here the next they they are gone.

jedc 18y ago

This was a Guy Kawasaki/Garage.com funded company if I remember right. I've got mixed feelings about some of the companies he's funded/promoted/started, though his books are interesting.

nikblack 18y ago
Yes it was. Kawasaki has had a long long list of misses since the first bubble.. Coghead raised a lot of money, in the order of $12M+. in the end, they didn't have a whole lot to show considering how crowded this space is and that they had raised more money than anybody else. Could have funded 20-30 companies with those funds and probably found 2-3 winners. They did spend a lot on PR/marketing - I know because their people were hitting me up all the time.
- teyc 18y ago
  Who are the competitors?
herval 18y ago
Guy is the Robert Kiyosaki of IT...

sahaj 18y ago

my ex-roommate worked at coghead. he says the company hadn't been doing well for a while (funding issues) and him and few of the originals had been running it on their own time.

bsaunder 18y ago

Wonder if they would consider open sourcing their engine?