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This sums up the dynamic: https://x.com/danhockenmaier/status/2021617680525172840 https://x.com/danhockenmaier/status/2021617680525172840

pedromlsreis 4mo ago
Right, which basically means that judgment compounds. AI just makes the slope steeper in both directions.
Imustaskforhelp 4mo ago
I wonder how much of the turbo brain developers time is spent on reviewing the code of slop cannons and how frustrated they must feel. Previously, everyone was limited in their blast radius but now AI has levelled the playing field where even a single slop cannon be the bottleneck of PR reviews or even the company itself if not right now, then later, as the codebase turns sloppified which will have its ramifications later on. Everyone might suggest with the diagram to be the turbo brains but I believe that we also need to reduce the metrics that slop cannon is achieving (surprisingly LOC which is a pretty bad indicator) and to be more reasonable throughout in realizing such bottlenecks and to follow good security practices throughout.
archagon 4mo ago
What a smug, dickish way to try to make a point. (But he’s still on Twitter, so I guess that makes sense.)
- meowface 4mo ago
  I detest Elon Musk but I still use Twitter because there just is no alternative to it if you want decent tech discussion. And I don't think it's smug or dickish. I like AI and I encourage even inexperienced software developers to use it. There's just no denying that the slop cannon phenomenon is still a very real phenomenon.
  - archagon 4mo ago
    I’m thinking more of the “Dead Weight” and “Turbo Brains” boxes as being particularly eye-rolling. As for tech discussion, of course there is an alternative. Practically every tech account I used to follow has migrated to Bluesky or Mastodon by now. The accounts left on Twitter have a distinctly narcissistic, preachy vibe. These people care more about “influencing,” not engaging. (And obviously they have no problem with the new ownership.)
throw4847285 4mo ago
Maybe I'm being defensive, but the problem with this chart is it assume a binary of good dev/bad dev; AI makes the bad dev worse and the good dev better. However, I think I once was a pretty good dev, and AI use is slowly turning me into a slop cannon. The temptation to use AI in place of real understanding is too strong. I'm sure you'll say I was always dead weight, but I just want you to consider the possibility that AI might erode the capacity for good devs to handle discomfort, turning them into bad devs.

pedromlsreis 4mo ago

Right, which basically means that judgment compounds. AI just makes the slope steeper in both directions.

Imustaskforhelp 4mo ago

I wonder how much of the turbo brain developers time is spent on reviewing the code of slop cannons and how frustrated they must feel. Previously, everyone was limited in their blast radius but now AI has levelled the playing field where even a single slop cannon be the bottleneck of PR reviews or even the company itself if not right now, then later, as the codebase turns sloppified which will have its ramifications later on. Everyone might suggest with the diagram to be the turbo brains but I believe that we also need to reduce the metrics that slop cannon is achieving (surprisingly LOC which is a pretty bad indicator) and to be more reasonable throughout in realizing such bottlenecks and to follow good security practices throughout.

archagon 4mo ago

What a smug, dickish way to try to make a point. (But he’s still on Twitter, so I guess that makes sense.)

meowface 4mo ago
I detest Elon Musk but I still use Twitter because there just is no alternative to it if you want decent tech discussion. And I don't think it's smug or dickish. I like AI and I encourage even inexperienced software developers to use it. There's just no denying that the slop cannon phenomenon is still a very real phenomenon.
- archagon 4mo ago
  I’m thinking more of the “Dead Weight” and “Turbo Brains” boxes as being particularly eye-rolling. As for tech discussion, of course there is an alternative. Practically every tech account I used to follow has migrated to Bluesky or Mastodon by now. The accounts left on Twitter have a distinctly narcissistic, preachy vibe. These people care more about “influencing,” not engaging. (And obviously they have no problem with the new ownership.)

throw4847285 4mo ago

Maybe I'm being defensive, but the problem with this chart is it assume a binary of good dev/bad dev; AI makes the bad dev worse and the good dev better. However, I think I once was a pretty good dev, and AI use is slowly turning me into a slop cannon. The temptation to use AI in place of real understanding is too strong. I'm sure you'll say I was always dead weight, but I just want you to consider the possibility that AI might erode the capacity for good devs to handle discomfort, turning them into bad devs.