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I wish elvis was still around. I don't want everything vim has but I like syntax highlighting and other conveniences

JdeBP 4mo ago
See infobox. * https://jdebp.uk/FGA/vi-family.html#elvis https://jdebp.uk/FGA/vi-family.html#elvis (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132452)
sombragris 4mo ago
Is still around, at least for some values of "around". Elvis, at its latest release (2.2.0) is a required part of Slackware, part of the A (essential system) package series. I have it installed on my system, alongside Plasma 6.7 and kernel 7.1.
- mghackerlady 4mo ago
  I suppose, but you can only install it via the AUR or nixpkgs on linux, and 2 out of the 4 BSDs no longer have ports. Sure, you can compile from source but when it's that old I consider such a state effectively no longer around
  - sombragris 4mo ago
    > you can only install it via the AUR or nixpkgs on linux I just said that it comes already installed (because is a required, essential part of the system) in Slackware. Slackware is a Linux distribution, just as Arch or NixOS. So, install Slackware, and elvis comes bundled and installed in your Linux.
    - mghackerlady 4mo ago
      I mean, if that's the case, then there's an argument to be made that SCCS is still a valid VCS because it comes with FreeBSD
      - sombragris 4mo ago
        That was not the question. The point is, elvis is still around. This is relevant because is a required, essential part (not at all optional) for an actively developed Linux distribution, which coincidentally is the oldest Linux distribution still actively maintained and developed. The package you mention (SCCS) might be offered as a FreeBSD port, maybe, but I'm certain it's not a required part of the system.
        mghackerlady 4mo ago
        I'd have to check, but I'm 90% sure sccs is included in base, meaning it's 'required' (you can most definitely remove it or not compile it, but if it's in base it's installed by default so unless you can't remove elvis without bricking slackware these are functionally equivalent)

JdeBP 4mo ago

See infobox. * https://jdebp.uk/FGA/vi-family.html#elvis https://jdebp.uk/FGA/vi-family.html#elvis (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132452 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132452)

sombragris 4mo ago

Is still around, at least for some values of "around". Elvis, at its latest release (2.2.0) is a required part of Slackware, part of the A (essential system) package series. I have it installed on my system, alongside Plasma 6.7 and kernel 7.1.

mghackerlady 4mo ago
I suppose, but you can only install it via the AUR or nixpkgs on linux, and 2 out of the 4 BSDs no longer have ports. Sure, you can compile from source but when it's that old I consider such a state effectively no longer around
- sombragris 4mo ago
  > you can only install it via the AUR or nixpkgs on linux I just said that it comes already installed (because is a required, essential part of the system) in Slackware. Slackware is a Linux distribution, just as Arch or NixOS. So, install Slackware, and elvis comes bundled and installed in your Linux.
  - mghackerlady 4mo ago
    I mean, if that's the case, then there's an argument to be made that SCCS is still a valid VCS because it comes with FreeBSD
    - sombragris 4mo ago
      That was not the question. The point is, elvis is still around. This is relevant because is a required, essential part (not at all optional) for an actively developed Linux distribution, which coincidentally is the oldest Linux distribution still actively maintained and developed. The package you mention (SCCS) might be offered as a FreeBSD port, maybe, but I'm certain it's not a required part of the system.
      - mghackerlady 4mo ago
        I'd have to check, but I'm 90% sure sccs is included in base, meaning it's 'required' (you can most definitely remove it or not compile it, but if it's in base it's installed by default so unless you can't remove elvis without bricking slackware these are functionally equivalent)