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Sorry, how is obesity similar to racial mixing?

by mapleoin 3mo ago

ForHackernews 3mo ago
Both fat people and black people offend our dear @zkmon's refined sensibilities as a 21st century race scientist.
- zkmon 3mo ago
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  - ForHackernews 3mo ago
    Actually it might do you good to speak to a scientist. You seem to be confusing different species of birds with different races of humans; we are all one species, and a fairly closely-related species as far as mammals go[0] [0] https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2023/august/human-ancestors-may-have-almost-died-out-ancient-population-crash.html https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2023/august/human-ancest...
    - zkmon 3mo ago
      You notion of "species are OK to be aware of differences, but races are not" - is flawed. Species and races are just two levels of hierarchy which has several such levels of distinction and evolution branching across flora and fauna. There are further levels of branching below the "race" level too, the evolution of which is defined by the differences. It is a continuous spectrum. You can't single out two levels somewhere in the middle and assign some arbitrary and inconsistent rules.
      - ForHackernews 3mo ago
        You should just be honest with yourself and others that you're a racist, instead of hiding behind flawed pseudoscience interpretations. You're the one picking arbitrary social distinctions and pretending they're immutable natural ones. Why is race mixing different from hair colour or religious mixing?
        zkmon 3mo ago
        > Why is race mixing different from hair colour or religious mixing? Because evolutionary distinctions are indicators for the norms and actions of the species. Why would you treat a shark differently from a salmon? Because you acquired knowledge about them. The whole point of evolutionary perception and survival instincts was to perceive and decode these indicators. People and animals grow up in different cultural contexts and with different norms and values. What's OK for others may not be OK for you. Some of these differences are not purely psychological that can be erased by having common rules. For example, some races are good at some sports. Do you complain if a sports team is 100% one kind of race? All races are good and I'm a big fan of so much variety in nature. But please don't erase that rich variety with your common rules.

Sorry, how is obesity similar to racial mixing?

ForHackernews 3mo ago

Both fat people and black people offend our dear @zkmon's refined sensibilities as a 21st century race scientist.

zkmon 3mo ago
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- ForHackernews 3mo ago
  Actually it might do you good to speak to a scientist. You seem to be confusing different species of birds with different races of humans; we are all one species, and a fairly closely-related species as far as mammals go[0] [0] https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2023/august/human-ancestors-may-have-almost-died-out-ancient-population-crash.html https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2023/august/human-ancest...
  - zkmon 3mo ago
    You notion of "species are OK to be aware of differences, but races are not" - is flawed. Species and races are just two levels of hierarchy which has several such levels of distinction and evolution branching across flora and fauna. There are further levels of branching below the "race" level too, the evolution of which is defined by the differences. It is a continuous spectrum. You can't single out two levels somewhere in the middle and assign some arbitrary and inconsistent rules.
    - ForHackernews 3mo ago
      You should just be honest with yourself and others that you're a racist, instead of hiding behind flawed pseudoscience interpretations. You're the one picking arbitrary social distinctions and pretending they're immutable natural ones. Why is race mixing different from hair colour or religious mixing?
      - zkmon 3mo ago
        > Why is race mixing different from hair colour or religious mixing? Because evolutionary distinctions are indicators for the norms and actions of the species. Why would you treat a shark differently from a salmon? Because you acquired knowledge about them. The whole point of evolutionary perception and survival instincts was to perceive and decode these indicators. People and animals grow up in different cultural contexts and with different norms and values. What's OK for others may not be OK for you. Some of these differences are not purely psychological that can be erased by having common rules. For example, some races are good at some sports. Do you complain if a sports team is 100% one kind of race? All races are good and I'm a big fan of so much variety in nature. But please don't erase that rich variety with your common rules.