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This would just push everyone to unlicensed casinos/bookmakers . Means no tax revenue + even worse player protection.

bdangubic 4mo ago
make this severely illegal with minimum two decades behind bars and what how they disappear… this is a very solvable problem which no one wants to solve
- ExpertAdvisor01 4mo ago
  Good luck with cross-border enforcement. Also the operator is completely legal/compliant with it's jurisdictions laws as they allow us players (many now blacklist the us, but some not ) So they won't accept any foreign judgement . That's why most countries rather target their infrastructure (psps/banking etc ..) Even Eu countries had/have severe problems with Malta (due e.g Article 56A of the malta gaming act, which shields the operator from foreign judgements)
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  - charcircuit 4mo ago
    Make the websites unconnectable from the US. Make domestic ISPs not route the traffic to the site else jail time for the executives. Make VPNs not route traffic to the site else jail time for the executives and being null routed by domestic ISPs. If you really want to crack down on it, then it could be done.
    - pjc50 4mo ago
      In the ancient days of 2011, this was done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Scheinberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Scheinberg
- sumedh 4mo ago
  Because they know it will not work.
- streetfighter64 3mo ago
  People have spend decades in prison for selling weed. Now it's legalized in more and more countries. Making things people like illegal rarely works, and it's far from a "solvable problem". Don't get me wrong, gambling is very bad, but if we were to analyze it statistically I think alcohol is way worse for society at large. And we all know how making alcohol illegal went.
  - boelboel 3mo ago
    Legal weed has been a disaster in the US, 20 million addicted (almost daily use/daily use) versus a few million before it was banned.
    - streetfighter64 3mo ago
      Note that I'm not in favor of either weed or alcohol being as readily accessible as they are now, but there are a few things making that claim a bit dubious. The first is that obviously people are less reluctant to self-report using weed if it's legal. Secondly, the causation could be reversed, i.e. there are other factors in society contributing to both higher usage and larger general support for legalization. In any case, my point was that simply making something illegal with the threat of "decades in prison" isn't a very good solution. Gambling, drugs, social media, etc. are all "big business", there's money to be made because there's a demand for it. How to solve that I don't know, but just prohibiting it doesn't seem like a good fix.
    - watwut 3mo ago
      You made that claim up. There was a study of Some 22 million people around the world being dependent on marijuana. You are severely overestimating US addicted people. What about this: that policy was huge success, because unlike gambling, weed is fairly harmless.
      - boelboel 3mo ago
        https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-cannabis-alcohol-use-disorder-daily-9cec33f3ac513123c8ffc8b8b3141877 https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-cannabis-alcohol-use-di... Close to 18 million in 2022, not exactly 20 million.
- cataphract 3mo ago
  Seems very disproportional. Reminds me of that TNG episode where the penalty for every offense, no matter how minor, is the death penalty.

make this severely illegal with minimum two decades behind bars and what how they disappear… this is a very solvable problem which no one wants to solve

ExpertAdvisor01 4mo ago
Good luck with cross-border enforcement. Also the operator is completely legal/compliant with it's jurisdictions laws as they allow us players (many now blacklist the us, but some not ) So they won't accept any foreign judgement . That's why most countries rather target their infrastructure (psps/banking etc ..) Even Eu countries had/have severe problems with Malta (due e.g Article 56A of the malta gaming act, which shields the operator from foreign judgements)
- deleted 4mo ago
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- charcircuit 4mo ago
  Make the websites unconnectable from the US. Make domestic ISPs not route the traffic to the site else jail time for the executives. Make VPNs not route traffic to the site else jail time for the executives and being null routed by domestic ISPs. If you really want to crack down on it, then it could be done.
  - pjc50 4mo ago
    In the ancient days of 2011, this was done: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Scheinberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Scheinberg
sumedh 4mo ago
Because they know it will not work.
streetfighter64 3mo ago
People have spend decades in prison for selling weed. Now it's legalized in more and more countries. Making things people like illegal rarely works, and it's far from a "solvable problem". Don't get me wrong, gambling is very bad, but if we were to analyze it statistically I think alcohol is way worse for society at large. And we all know how making alcohol illegal went.
- boelboel 3mo ago
  Legal weed has been a disaster in the US, 20 million addicted (almost daily use/daily use) versus a few million before it was banned.
  - streetfighter64 3mo ago
    Note that I'm not in favor of either weed or alcohol being as readily accessible as they are now, but there are a few things making that claim a bit dubious. The first is that obviously people are less reluctant to self-report using weed if it's legal. Secondly, the causation could be reversed, i.e. there are other factors in society contributing to both higher usage and larger general support for legalization. In any case, my point was that simply making something illegal with the threat of "decades in prison" isn't a very good solution. Gambling, drugs, social media, etc. are all "big business", there's money to be made because there's a demand for it. How to solve that I don't know, but just prohibiting it doesn't seem like a good fix.
  - watwut 3mo ago
    You made that claim up. There was a study of Some 22 million people around the world being dependent on marijuana. You are severely overestimating US addicted people. What about this: that policy was huge success, because unlike gambling, weed is fairly harmless.
    - boelboel 3mo ago
      https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-cannabis-alcohol-use-disorder-daily-9cec33f3ac513123c8ffc8b8b3141877 https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-cannabis-alcohol-use-di... Close to 18 million in 2022, not exactly 20 million.
cataphract 3mo ago
Seems very disproportional. Reminds me of that TNG episode where the penalty for every offense, no matter how minor, is the death penalty.