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You know, it's just so hard to argue with people who are being condescending. Your post here is just dripping with superiority, whereas I've done my utmost to

You know, it's just so hard to argue with people who are being condescending. Your post here is just dripping with superiority, whereas I've done my utmost to stay polite. Even if I believe that my point of view is valid, it just isn't worth the stress of talking about it here. This isn't "you've managed to convince me", it's "I no longer care to be abused".

georgeorwell 14y ago
I'm curious, why is my post here getting downvoted?
- pdonis 14y ago
  Possibly because the downvoters did not see yummyfajitas' posts as "condescending"; they just saw him pointing out facts that you find inconvenient. (Note: I was not one of the downvoters; I don't have enough karma to downvote, but even if I did, I would not have downvoted your post. I didn't see yummyfajitas' posts as being condescending, but "condescending" is subjective, so I would have left it to yummyfajitas to respond if he felt so inclined.)
  - georgeorwell 14y ago
    Yeah, I don't mind arguing with his claims - you essentially said similar things - but it really was the way that he said it; all I could come up with were angry responses and I felt like it wasn't worth continuing. "what you call ... the rest of the world calls"; "You might be surprised to discover"; "people don't actually"; "In fact"; "typically"; "Strangely"; I think you get the idea. All of this made me feel terrible. At the end of the day, I basically am not convinced that life is as good or better than subsistence farming for the people in question. I was under the strong impression it was worse now because they don't have enough food and so it's below subsistence level (especially without foreign aid), but like you said elsewhere, I guess we can't know for sure. Anyway, thanks for your time pdonis, it was kind of you to respond here.
    - shrughes 14y ago
      What's condescending is your taking guesses at what's better for people and assuming they don't know what's better for themselves instead of just looking at their behavior.

georgeorwell 14y ago

I'm curious, why is my post here getting downvoted?

pdonis 14y ago
Possibly because the downvoters did not see yummyfajitas' posts as "condescending"; they just saw him pointing out facts that you find inconvenient. (Note: I was not one of the downvoters; I don't have enough karma to downvote, but even if I did, I would not have downvoted your post. I didn't see yummyfajitas' posts as being condescending, but "condescending" is subjective, so I would have left it to yummyfajitas to respond if he felt so inclined.)
- georgeorwell 14y ago
  Yeah, I don't mind arguing with his claims - you essentially said similar things - but it really was the way that he said it; all I could come up with were angry responses and I felt like it wasn't worth continuing. "what you call ... the rest of the world calls"; "You might be surprised to discover"; "people don't actually"; "In fact"; "typically"; "Strangely"; I think you get the idea. All of this made me feel terrible. At the end of the day, I basically am not convinced that life is as good or better than subsistence farming for the people in question. I was under the strong impression it was worse now because they don't have enough food and so it's below subsistence level (especially without foreign aid), but like you said elsewhere, I guess we can't know for sure. Anyway, thanks for your time pdonis, it was kind of you to respond here.
  - shrughes 14y ago
    What's condescending is your taking guesses at what's better for people and assuming they don't know what's better for themselves instead of just looking at their behavior.