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Xbox Series S/X, PS5 and both Switches are pretty much commodity hardware. Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the abilit

Xbox Series S/X, PS5 and both Switches are pretty much commodity hardware. Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the ability to run whatever OS on them freely. I keep wondering why.

izacus 4mo ago
I guess you weren't listening because all of them have healthy homebrew communities and people defeating the DRM. I'm not sure if you're being dishonest or just ignorant of the console hacking scene.
- theshrike79 4mo ago
  Mostly wondering about legislators being Super Concerned about Apple (and Google to a smaller degree) not allowing 3rd party software. But for consoles it's just crickets. We shouldn't need to "defeat the DRM", it should be allowed full stop.
  - bigfishrunning 4mo ago
    Legislators *use* cell phones though; very few of them use video game consoles.
    - theshrike79 4mo ago
      Millennials are also legislators, people who have grown up with consoles. Not every politician is a boomer.
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- Lammy 4mo ago
  You're the one being dishonest and ignorant comparing defeating DRM to something that is open from the start
  - izacus 4mo ago
    Nope.
  - wtetzner 4mo ago
    How is that dishonest? They were replying to: > Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the ability to run whatever OS on them freely. If people are going through the trouble to defeat DRM, I would say that's more than a hint that people want the ability to run whatever OS on them freely.
- mahboi 4mo ago
  Not going to jump through those hoops to run software
ebbi 4mo ago
Probably because it's very niche. Talking to many friends, and an increasing number of posts on various console subreddits, there's lots of comments from PC gamers that embraced the console life due to it's simplicity. This has increased since the PS5 Pro released - "Close to PC-level graphics, without the PC-level costs and mucking around with settings" There is a certain appeal to this for many people that hacking it to run your own OS isn't really sought after.
- mywittyname 4mo ago
  Kind of funny because most games on the PS5 Pro have performance tuning settings. It's not as comprehensive as you'd find on a PC game, but it's clear the console audience is also wanting to tweak how their game runs. And, for what it's worth, pretty much every new PC game has an auto-configuration that customizes the settings for the hardware on install. So you don't have to ever go into settings, so long as you're happy with the play experience the developer decided you should have.
  - ebbi 4mo ago
    That's true, but even the settings you can tweak are essentially a curated set to choose between higher res vs lower fps, or vice versa. I think the other aspect is that when gaming on console, you know the game was optimized for a certain hardware config - not having to worry about whether the graphics card you bought a few years ago will net you the best experience on a recently released game. It's just one less thing to worry about for many people, including myself.

izacus 4mo ago

I guess you weren't listening because all of them have healthy homebrew communities and people defeating the DRM. I'm not sure if you're being dishonest or just ignorant of the console hacking scene.

theshrike79 4mo ago
Mostly wondering about legislators being Super Concerned about Apple (and Google to a smaller degree) not allowing 3rd party software. But for consoles it's just crickets. We shouldn't need to "defeat the DRM", it should be allowed full stop.
- bigfishrunning 4mo ago
  Legislators *use* cell phones though; very few of them use video game consoles.
  - theshrike79 4mo ago
    Millennials are also legislators, people who have grown up with consoles. Not every politician is a boomer.
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Lammy 4mo ago
You're the one being dishonest and ignorant comparing defeating DRM to something that is open from the start
- izacus 4mo ago
  Nope.
- wtetzner 4mo ago
  How is that dishonest? They were replying to: > Nobody has even hinted that it would be nice to have a 3rd party store or the ability to run whatever OS on them freely. If people are going through the trouble to defeat DRM, I would say that's more than a hint that people want the ability to run whatever OS on them freely.
mahboi 4mo ago
Not going to jump through those hoops to run software

ebbi 4mo ago

Probably because it's very niche. Talking to many friends, and an increasing number of posts on various console subreddits, there's lots of comments from PC gamers that embraced the console life due to it's simplicity. This has increased since the PS5 Pro released - "Close to PC-level graphics, without the PC-level costs and mucking around with settings" There is a certain appeal to this for many people that hacking it to run your own OS isn't really sought after.

mywittyname 4mo ago
Kind of funny because most games on the PS5 Pro have performance tuning settings. It's not as comprehensive as you'd find on a PC game, but it's clear the console audience is also wanting to tweak how their game runs. And, for what it's worth, pretty much every new PC game has an auto-configuration that customizes the settings for the hardware on install. So you don't have to ever go into settings, so long as you're happy with the play experience the developer decided you should have.
- ebbi 4mo ago
  That's true, but even the settings you can tweak are essentially a curated set to choose between higher res vs lower fps, or vice versa. I think the other aspect is that when gaming on console, you know the game was optimized for a certain hardware config - not having to worry about whether the graphics card you bought a few years ago will net you the best experience on a recently released game. It's just one less thing to worry about for many people, including myself.