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Mildly disappointed to see 1GbE when spending [at least] a thousand dollars. Stupid datacenters squeezing all the chips.

littlecranky67 4mo ago
Interested in hear the justification why you would need more than 1GbE in a machine built specificly for gaming.
- corndoge 4mo ago
  It's a living room pc - using it to stream from a media NAS is one application that comes to mind
  - kube-system 4mo ago
    You could stream 5 bluray videos and hold a zoom call at the same time with 1 gbps.
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- Keyframe 4mo ago
  Downloading those giant game installs and updates
  - littlecranky67 4mo ago
    Where do you live and how much do you pay for that Internet uplink that is > 1GbE?
    - bravetraveler 4mo ago
      With the 'Game File Transfer over Local Network' feature in Steam, you don't need a fast internet connection; 'just' another system on the LAN that can serve the files. Fairly common for those with full-powered gaming desktops and Steam Decks, and soon, Steam Machines.
    - iso1631 4mo ago
      The UK isn't exactly cheap, but the >1gbit packages tend to be in the 70 USD per month range, maybe uptowards $100 a month by the time you get to 5Gbit on the more traditional providers (sky for example)
    - Keyframe 4mo ago
      Telemach, 2Gbps symmetrical - 34,90 EUR, Croatia. Flat rate, also includes flat rate landline to in-country mobile and other phones, but haven't bothered to even install that.
- robhlt 4mo ago
  It's a bit niche, but Steam can download games from another PC running Steam on your local network. 2.5GbE on both PCs makes that a lot faster.
  - bravetraveler 4mo ago
    This is it, basically. It's a little annoying having to plan installations or wait [for ~$5 reduction in BoM]. 2.5GbE is very accessible; my LAN is 10 and WAN is 2.
    - kube-system 4mo ago
      $5 here and there adds up... and this thing is already $250 over the target price due to component prices increases.
      - bravetraveler 4mo ago
        I would trade the LED strip! Kidding, I understand SKUs have a cost too.
  - craftkiller 4mo ago
    I did some math, supposedly the complete install of the latest Call of Duty game is a 200GB download[0]. At 1gbps we're talking 26 minutes of downloading. At 2.5gbps we're talking 10 minutes of downloading. I'm honestly surprised game downloads have become so massive but are those 16 extra minutes really going to change anything? Personally, I'm rarely "surprised" by a need to play a specific game that I don't already have downloaded/installed so I can just tell Steam to download the game in advance. But if I were to be in such a surprise scenario, we're talking the difference between popping on one youtube video while I wait or popping on two youtube videos while I wait. In both scenarios, I am waiting for a small but not insignificant amount of time... now if we could get 10gbps that'd be a game changer. I wouldn't even context switch for a 2.6 minute wait. [0] https://gameboost.com/blog/call-of-duty-bo7-download-size https://gameboost.com/blog/call-of-duty-bo7-download-size
neogodless 4mo ago
I bet at least 90% of people buying this connect it to WiFi and never think about connection speed again! Personally... my internet is only 300 Mbps. My WiFi connection is roughly on par with 1GbE. I have a very small pool of 2.5GbE capable devices, but overall I'm just not fussed about making the switch.
- bravetraveler 4mo ago
  Probably :) However, as I mentioned elsewhere, one doesn't need fast internet to benefit. The 'Game File Transfer over Local Network' feature in Steam has been a boon, personally, even with 2G Fiber.
  - neogodless 4mo ago
    We use that feature, and it's faster than our 300 Mbps internet even though both gaming laptops are on WiFi. shrug but yeah I don't know that it's a "killer feature" when we're talking about a device that omitted features and is still $1050. If this made it $1100 and lost 10% of sales to increase sales by 1%, it's a loss for the company ;)

littlecranky67 4mo ago

Interested in hear the justification why you would need more than 1GbE in a machine built specificly for gaming.

corndoge 4mo ago
It's a living room pc - using it to stream from a media NAS is one application that comes to mind
- kube-system 4mo ago
  You could stream 5 bluray videos and hold a zoom call at the same time with 1 gbps.
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Keyframe 4mo ago
Downloading those giant game installs and updates
- littlecranky67 4mo ago
  Where do you live and how much do you pay for that Internet uplink that is > 1GbE?
  - bravetraveler 4mo ago
    With the 'Game File Transfer over Local Network' feature in Steam, you don't need a fast internet connection; 'just' another system on the LAN that can serve the files. Fairly common for those with full-powered gaming desktops and Steam Decks, and soon, Steam Machines.
  - iso1631 4mo ago
    The UK isn't exactly cheap, but the >1gbit packages tend to be in the 70 USD per month range, maybe uptowards $100 a month by the time you get to 5Gbit on the more traditional providers (sky for example)
  - Keyframe 4mo ago
    Telemach, 2Gbps symmetrical - 34,90 EUR, Croatia. Flat rate, also includes flat rate landline to in-country mobile and other phones, but haven't bothered to even install that.
robhlt 4mo ago
It's a bit niche, but Steam can download games from another PC running Steam on your local network. 2.5GbE on both PCs makes that a lot faster.
- bravetraveler 4mo ago
  This is it, basically. It's a little annoying having to plan installations or wait [for ~$5 reduction in BoM]. 2.5GbE is very accessible; my LAN is 10 and WAN is 2.
  - kube-system 4mo ago
    $5 here and there adds up... and this thing is already $250 over the target price due to component prices increases.
    - bravetraveler 4mo ago
      I would trade the LED strip! Kidding, I understand SKUs have a cost too.
- craftkiller 4mo ago
  I did some math, supposedly the complete install of the latest Call of Duty game is a 200GB download[0]. At 1gbps we're talking 26 minutes of downloading. At 2.5gbps we're talking 10 minutes of downloading. I'm honestly surprised game downloads have become so massive but are those 16 extra minutes really going to change anything? Personally, I'm rarely "surprised" by a need to play a specific game that I don't already have downloaded/installed so I can just tell Steam to download the game in advance. But if I were to be in such a surprise scenario, we're talking the difference between popping on one youtube video while I wait or popping on two youtube videos while I wait. In both scenarios, I am waiting for a small but not insignificant amount of time... now if we could get 10gbps that'd be a game changer. I wouldn't even context switch for a 2.6 minute wait. [0] https://gameboost.com/blog/call-of-duty-bo7-download-size https://gameboost.com/blog/call-of-duty-bo7-download-size

neogodless 4mo ago

I bet at least 90% of people buying this connect it to WiFi and never think about connection speed again! Personally... my internet is only 300 Mbps. My WiFi connection is roughly on par with 1GbE. I have a very small pool of 2.5GbE capable devices, but overall I'm just not fussed about making the switch.

bravetraveler 4mo ago
Probably :) However, as I mentioned elsewhere, one doesn't need fast internet to benefit. The 'Game File Transfer over Local Network' feature in Steam has been a boon, personally, even with 2G Fiber.
- neogodless 4mo ago
  We use that feature, and it's faster than our 300 Mbps internet even though both gaming laptops are on WiFi. shrug but yeah I don't know that it's a "killer feature" when we're talking about a device that omitted features and is still $1050. If this made it $1100 and lost 10% of sales to increase sales by 1%, it's a loss for the company ;)