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Inside non capitalist places, those solutions dont even get to EXIST. Nobody even cares about nasty disease solution and funding. They don't get invented or the

Inside non capitalist places, those solutions dont even get to EXIST. Nobody even cares about nasty disease solution and funding. They don't get invented or they are not allowed for your use, by design. This is a very narrow view and what a word salad. Now tell me name of the great "Communist countries" that exist today and they are big and have lots of great things to pursue humankind and human lifespan. I will wait for the name of those counties :)

cogman10 4mo ago
> Nobody even cares about nasty disease solution and funding. This is just silly. The US has such a large lead in research output because of direct government intervention and funding since about the 1950s. That is a big part of why up until the Trump admin the US has been a powerhouse in medicine. China is very likely going to be the next world leader in medicine. They've been investing heavily in biomedical research and they are sucking up all the talent that the US is defunding. > They don't get invented or they are not allowed for your use, by design. This is a very narrow view and what a word salad. That's a wild conspiracy. Governments want healthy citizens because healthy citizens power a government's economy. But further, governments are made of people and most people realize that general medical research is beneficial to all. > Now tell me name of the great "Communist countries" that exist today and they are big and have lots of great things to pursue humankind and human lifespan. China is the best example. Few communist countries have been able to be successful because it's been US policy to undermine them at every turn. Cuba is perhaps one of the best examples of this. And also, remarkably, even with the trade embargo of the US, cuba has a relatively decent healthcare system. The number one thing holding it back is they can't import what they need. Ironically enough, because the capitalists have decided to forgo profit because hurting a communist nation is more important than making money. China got it's special status because for whatever reason Nixon fell in love with them.
- nekusar 4mo ago
  Yep. One big pattern you will see with capititalist countries is they will carry on that "competition is amazing and wonderful".... But when communism wants to compete with capitalism, suddenly competition is evil and you're godless and all the slurs capitalists use. And we see with mild socialists like Mamdani, its easy to see the hate and slurs. Like, do you or do you not like competition?
- irishcoffee 4mo ago
  > China is very likely going to be the next world leader in medicine. They've been investing heavily in biomedical research and they are sucking up all the talent that the US is defunding. They sure have. They created a global pandemic! And convinced the world it was from bat shit. Incredible.
  - nekusar 4mo ago
    So you're one of those conspiratorial gain-of-function Wuhan infection wonks. Good to know.
    - irishcoffee 4mo ago
      Nah. Occam’s razor is still a real thing.
      - cogman10 4mo ago
        > Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity It seems like occam's razor favors the official explanation of this being a natural mutation. We know that happens. Adding a government coverup with secret biological weapons testing and accidental lab leak on top of that is "multiplying entities". Particularly since the evidence of this theory is pretty scant.
        irishcoffee 4mo ago
        International institute of virology. Doesn’t really sound like a secret.
        cogman10 4mo ago
        Do you also think the international agency for research of cancer is also the cause of the increase of cancer? It's in the name after all.
        4mo ago

cogman10 4mo ago

> Nobody even cares about nasty disease solution and funding. This is just silly. The US has such a large lead in research output because of direct government intervention and funding since about the 1950s. That is a big part of why up until the Trump admin the US has been a powerhouse in medicine. China is very likely going to be the next world leader in medicine. They've been investing heavily in biomedical research and they are sucking up all the talent that the US is defunding. > They don't get invented or they are not allowed for your use, by design. This is a very narrow view and what a word salad. That's a wild conspiracy. Governments want healthy citizens because healthy citizens power a government's economy. But further, governments are made of people and most people realize that general medical research is beneficial to all. > Now tell me name of the great "Communist countries" that exist today and they are big and have lots of great things to pursue humankind and human lifespan. China is the best example. Few communist countries have been able to be successful because it's been US policy to undermine them at every turn. Cuba is perhaps one of the best examples of this. And also, remarkably, even with the trade embargo of the US, cuba has a relatively decent healthcare system. The number one thing holding it back is they can't import what they need. Ironically enough, because the capitalists have decided to forgo profit because hurting a communist nation is more important than making money. China got it's special status because for whatever reason Nixon fell in love with them.

nekusar 4mo ago
Yep. One big pattern you will see with capititalist countries is they will carry on that "competition is amazing and wonderful".... But when communism wants to compete with capitalism, suddenly competition is evil and you're godless and all the slurs capitalists use. And we see with mild socialists like Mamdani, its easy to see the hate and slurs. Like, do you or do you not like competition?
irishcoffee 4mo ago
> China is very likely going to be the next world leader in medicine. They've been investing heavily in biomedical research and they are sucking up all the talent that the US is defunding. They sure have. They created a global pandemic! And convinced the world it was from bat shit. Incredible.
- nekusar 4mo ago
  So you're one of those conspiratorial gain-of-function Wuhan infection wonks. Good to know.
  - irishcoffee 4mo ago
    Nah. Occam’s razor is still a real thing.
    - cogman10 4mo ago
      > Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity It seems like occam's razor favors the official explanation of this being a natural mutation. We know that happens. Adding a government coverup with secret biological weapons testing and accidental lab leak on top of that is "multiplying entities". Particularly since the evidence of this theory is pretty scant.
      - irishcoffee 4mo ago
        International institute of virology. Doesn’t really sound like a secret.
        cogman10 4mo ago
        Do you also think the international agency for research of cancer is also the cause of the increase of cancer? It's in the name after all.
        4mo ago