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> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?
by JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it
If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?
- Y_Y 5mo agoDisband the UK
- dabeeeenster 5mo agoRejoin the EU, single market, customs union, drop sterling and take the Euro. This would almost certainly start a civil war in the UK (I am not being dramatic) but its what is needed. Brexit was -8% GDP, according to Bank of England.
- PunchyHamster 5mo agoOh, no, we don't want you, keep your mess to yourself instead of making it EU's
- pjc50 5mo agoThis wouldn't start a civil war. Many of the Brexit voters are already dead and most of the rest are retired.
- hn_throw2025 5mo agoLovely comment thread. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the “democrats”…
- pjc50 5mo agohttps://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/2016-leave-majority-has-literally-died-out-polling-expert-reveals-401296/ https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/2016-leave-majori...
- hn_throw2025 4mo agoIf you would cast your mind back ten years, I distinctly remember this bitter and callous attitude at the time. Wanting people who disagree with you to "just die out" is profoundly antidemocratic.
- ulfw 5mo agoYea no will never happen. Only way into the EU is way you described. Full on Schengen, EUR, no more special UK exceptions etc. Will never fly.
- pjc50 5mo agoEEA like Norway would be both a significant improvement, and does not require Euro. I do think we have to get to the point where we can say that actually Schengen was good and we should have been part of it before we get economically overtaken by Poland.
- asplake 5mo agoMichel Barnier (EU's Brexit negotiator and later PM of France) suggests otherwise. Exclusive: Former chief Brexit negotiator says staying out of euro and Schengen area would be ‘perfectly possible’" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/18/uk-could-keep-special-pre-brexit-terms-if-it-rejoined-eu-michel-barnier-says https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/18/uk-could-ke...
- barrkel 5mo agoRepeal Town and Country Planning Act 1947
- pjc50 5mo agoMost of the real power is in the budget, which is technically a bill, but I would 100% go for "change the voting system". Almost anything except D'Hondt is better than FPTP; for simplicity, we could just copy the Scottish Parliament's use of AMS. I would also insert a trapdoor that future changes to the voting system would require the approval of >50% of eligible voters, including non-voters. Yes, I know Parliament cannot bind its successors and all that, but at least I can make it look bad to change it again. Does this solve any of the immediate problems? No. Does it solve the dysfunctionality since 2008? I think so, especially given that polling these days looks like five parties getting 20% of the vote each. Labour themselves came to power on 38% of the vote.
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- rapsey 5mo agoThe grand coalition governments of the EU are not in any way better. They just result in bickering and gridlock because parties that hate each other get stuck in the same room. This is your pet issue, completely based on the grass looking greener on the other side.
- pjc50 5mo agoThe gridlock is real whether it happens inside or outside the party. This is partly why we're here in the first place! Starmer is out because he couldn't do coalition management inside the Labour party.
- gadders 5mo agoHonestly, go back to the Liz Truss plan. She tried to speed run implementation, but policy-wise it was all there.