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Also see Schmidhuber's take on the Hinton + Hopfield Nobel prize: https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/physics-nobel-2024-plagiarism.html https://people.idsia.ch/~j
by MeteorMarc 3mo ago
Also see Schmidhuber's take on the Hinton + Hopfield Nobel prize: https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/physics-nobel-2024-plagiarism.html https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/physics-nobel-2024-plagiari...
- h8hawk 3mo agoIt's sad that he is the only one speaking out about Hinton. This whole Hinton glorification seems like it's being pushed by an agenda. I'm not sure if he would receive this much attention if he held a different view (closer to LeCun or Ng), rather than these Effective Altruism takes on current AI.
- ks2048 3mo agoI don't associate Hinton will Effective Altruism. He did switch to focus on warning of the dangers of AI, but that was after he already was established as the father (or one of them) of deep learning.
- Hoasi 3mo agoNot that surprising since the whole LLM ecosystem is based on plagiarism.
- letssaythat 3mo ago[flagged]
- snowpid 3mo agowell, so you think, all parts and peoples of USSR were voluntarily part of USSR?
- letssaythat 3mo agoNo, not all, though you will be surprised how many convinced communists were even in Lithuania, to pick one example (a fact which today's Lithuania hides). And do you think the people in Europe are voluntarily a part of your undeclared, but very much existing, empire?
- snowpid 3mo ago"And do you think the people in Europe are voluntarily a part of your undeclared, but very much existing, empire?" I think most people are voluntary part of the EU or Germany. Both aren't empires because the broad majority of people living in these entities wants to be part of the entity. https://news.gallup.com/poll/700661/earns-steady-high-approval-across-bloc.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/700661/earns-steady-high-approv... Did you seriously assume I am from the US?
- letssaythat 3mo agoI don't know where you are from. No, people are not "voluntarily" part of EU. They are forced to, since otherwise they are being presented with the prospective of even greater poverty and external threats (Greece for example; Hungary - one should not be deceived by the election of "pro EU candidate". Not only them of course). And because in effect EU means Germany (and there are a lot of people, surely of my age, who dont want to have nothing to do with post 1930s Germany - if they can). Do you think it was all that different with USSR, at least after Stalin (remember also that times were different)? I lived in Vilnius. No "we are under occupation" there (not in the mainstream).. not until 1980s, when the economical gap between USSR and the west became too evident, to my feeling. But you are presented deliberately with a false (worse, half true) picture of the past. Under the guise of western historiography.
- onraglanroad 3mo agoI was going to say that no country actually chose to join the USSR but perhaps I'm wrong. Did any country voluntarily choose to join? Maybe Belarus?
- vld_chk 3mo agoHm, first time I see that Russian bots came to HN, but here we are. The history of comments of this account is insane.
- snowpid 3mo agoI believe just someone who got too deep into Russian propaganda rabbid hole. The comment is too leaky for somebody working in St. Petersburg / a LLM.
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- larodi 3mo agoRead through his papers, and these are substantial accusations. Perhaps Hinton et al. should investigate, and either a) correct themselves by properly citing these Munich researchers; or b) proove they did not base their work (unlikely) on these papers; And then, as a whole, this weighs in favor of European scholars and also should properly inform the funding of similar research in the EU. Writing the last in the light of a month-and-a-half wait (to date) for EuroHPC to process their own form where we submitted a funding request by no less than University + Private Company already established in the area + 4 alumni, two PHDs and one postdoc. Zero response since.