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But they're not trying to justify themselves on ideological grounds, they're making a legal defense. A successful legal defense will not necessarily be the same

by jscn 18y ago

But they're not trying to justify themselves on ideological grounds, they're making a legal defense. A successful legal defense will not necessarily be the same as a mature and reasonable argument that you or I would find convincing.

jacoblyles 18y ago
That's true. Maybe I should have said that I don't find their case convincing. When the logical weakness of the defense's argument is combined with their showy grandstanding - well it looks like the adults are suing the children in this case. People here seem to be enjoying their antics, but to me it makes them look non-serious. Edit: The Pirate Bay's fans are pretty annoying and un-serious, too. There is no nuance to their thoughts. Take a look at this comment thread: http://torrentfreak.com/u2s-new-album-leaks-early-despite-private-hearings-090218/ http://torrentfreak.com/u2s-new-album-leaks-early-despite-pr... I wouldn't want to sit down to a cup of coffee with any of those people, that's for sure.
- jacquesm 18y ago
  nobody asks you to like the people on that thread or to sit down and have coffee with them. Likewise, the pirate bay is not guilty because of such associations. In most jurisdictions file sharing is legal, it depends on what you share that decides whether it is illegal or legal, and even the file sharing of copyrighted works is legal in some jurisdictions. Pointing to illegal files is illegal in some places (for instance in the Netherlands), though the legal grounds of this decision are very shaky. The copyright backed media industry is fighting a rearguard action here, they know they are losing, they just want to milk the cow a little longer. With storage costs fast approaching zero and transport cost per bit fast approaching zero it is really only a matter of time before you can carry any content you'd ever want to consume in your whole lifetime in your inside pocket.

by jscn 18y ago

jacoblyles 18y ago

That's true. Maybe I should have said that I don't find their case convincing. When the logical weakness of the defense's argument is combined with their showy grandstanding - well it looks like the adults are suing the children in this case. People here seem to be enjoying their antics, but to me it makes them look non-serious. Edit: The Pirate Bay's fans are pretty annoying and un-serious, too. There is no nuance to their thoughts. Take a look at this comment thread: http://torrentfreak.com/u2s-new-album-leaks-early-despite-private-hearings-090218/ http://torrentfreak.com/u2s-new-album-leaks-early-despite-pr... I wouldn't want to sit down to a cup of coffee with any of those people, that's for sure.

jacquesm 18y ago
nobody asks you to like the people on that thread or to sit down and have coffee with them. Likewise, the pirate bay is not guilty because of such associations. In most jurisdictions file sharing is legal, it depends on what you share that decides whether it is illegal or legal, and even the file sharing of copyrighted works is legal in some jurisdictions. Pointing to illegal files is illegal in some places (for instance in the Netherlands), though the legal grounds of this decision are very shaky. The copyright backed media industry is fighting a rearguard action here, they know they are losing, they just want to milk the cow a little longer. With storage costs fast approaching zero and transport cost per bit fast approaching zero it is really only a matter of time before you can carry any content you'd ever want to consume in your whole lifetime in your inside pocket.