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Volume creation date is pretty egregious. I don't see any reason that and Pasteboard changeCount should be so granular. The "Installed Apps Probe" leak also su

Volume creation date is pretty egregious. I don't see any reason that and Pasteboard changeCount should be so granular. The "Installed Apps Probe" leak also surprised me. It is better than the current state of Android, though.

xenator 4mo ago
Pasteboard counter exists to help apps to not ask again about the same item in the buffer. And nothing stops from using reset it every day.
- Barbing 4mo ago
  Would you elaborate on both points? Any way to reset it as an end user? (Not enough awareness of the issue for search engines to find much.)
- RedComet 4mo ago
  I think something like a per boot delta added to a (per app?) random base would preserve such functionality.
  - echoangle 4mo ago
    Just generate a new random value instead of incrementing
    - RedComet 4mo ago
      Even that is overkill if all you're interested in is if a change occured.
      - echoangle 4mo ago
        What’s an easier way? I’m assuming they want the app to be able to detect when “a”, was copied, then “b” and then “a” again, so just looking at the value probably isn’t enough.
        maccard 4mo ago
        I don’t think an app should have access to that (without some sort of very special permission).
- dylan604 4mo ago
  Allowing an app to access the pasteboard without the user explicitly pasting into the app is weird to me. Maybe the thing I have in the pasteboard is not for this app but left over from use in another app. Since there's no easy way to clear the pasteboard, this will happen often. Maybe it's because I'm not an app dev that this doesn't make sense to me????
  - aalimov_ 4mo ago
    iOS will ask for pasteboard permission every time an app wants to read the actual contents.
    - Barbing 4mo ago
      & we can set ask each time, always allow, never allow per app.
- echoangle 4mo ago
  Why do you need a count for that? Couldn’t they just generate a UUID every time the clipboard changes?
  - jrmg 3mo ago
    That’s even worse - now you have a tracking UUID that only changes when the user copies something.
backscratches 4mo ago
Graphene is way ahead of this
- Cider9986 4mo ago
  Apps on grapheneos can see a list of other apps in the same profile.

xenator 4mo ago

Pasteboard counter exists to help apps to not ask again about the same item in the buffer. And nothing stops from using reset it every day.

Barbing 4mo ago
Would you elaborate on both points? Any way to reset it as an end user? (Not enough awareness of the issue for search engines to find much.)
RedComet 4mo ago
I think something like a per boot delta added to a (per app?) random base would preserve such functionality.
- echoangle 4mo ago
  Just generate a new random value instead of incrementing
  - RedComet 4mo ago
    Even that is overkill if all you're interested in is if a change occured.
    - echoangle 4mo ago
      What’s an easier way? I’m assuming they want the app to be able to detect when “a”, was copied, then “b” and then “a” again, so just looking at the value probably isn’t enough.
      - maccard 4mo ago
        I don’t think an app should have access to that (without some sort of very special permission).
dylan604 4mo ago
Allowing an app to access the pasteboard without the user explicitly pasting into the app is weird to me. Maybe the thing I have in the pasteboard is not for this app but left over from use in another app. Since there's no easy way to clear the pasteboard, this will happen often. Maybe it's because I'm not an app dev that this doesn't make sense to me????
- aalimov_ 4mo ago
  iOS will ask for pasteboard permission every time an app wants to read the actual contents.
  - Barbing 4mo ago
    & we can set ask each time, always allow, never allow per app.
echoangle 4mo ago
Why do you need a count for that? Couldn’t they just generate a UUID every time the clipboard changes?
- jrmg 3mo ago
  That’s even worse - now you have a tracking UUID that only changes when the user copies something.

backscratches 4mo ago

Graphene is way ahead of this

Cider9986 4mo ago
Apps on grapheneos can see a list of other apps in the same profile.