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> quite a lot of analysis went into the rewrite Literally just prompted for an LLM to review it and asked for a fancy presentation. That is not "quite a lot of

> quite a lot of analysis went into the rewrite Literally just prompted for an LLM to review it and asked for a fancy presentation. That is not "quite a lot of analysis". That is anything but. > If the tests pass, then why not accept the rewrite? Because (1) tests passing are absolutely not a guarantee that no regressions were introduced in a change, and (2) even if they were, those tests are the result of thousands of hours of human labour, which is all well and good for the codebase as it currently exists, but who is going to be writing the tests for the 1m loc repo of unread code in the future? Unless you've proven that specifically LLM-generated tests can prevent all possible regressions, you're condemning the future of the project because nobody will be able to continue writing robust tests.

stbenjam 4mo ago
I hear a lot of complaints about bun but nothing concrete about what broke in the migration. You are also assuming one prompt, and then arguing against your assumptions with zero evidence. It is lazy arm chair criticism.
- JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
  >I hear a lot of complaints about bun but nothing concrete about what broke in the migration. Because it hasn't been released yet (at least not outside of some unstable branches). You can find some criticism of the actual slop here though: https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1t4033y/buns_rewrite_it_in_rust_branch/ojzuftw/ https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1t4033y/buns_rewrite_...
  - UqWBcuFx6NV4r 4mo ago
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    - JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
      >Dude, stop with “slop”. No. It's a useful term, just like "clickbait" was 10 to 15 years ago (and still is). Trying to police other people calling it slop is reminiscent of Microsoft autobanning anyone using the term "Microslop" on their Discord, it's idiotic language policing and I'm not going to do it, simple as.
  - senordevnyc 4mo ago
    Hmm, it sounds like the main example of “slop” there is 1000 global variables. I’m curious if that matters if humans are never going to even read this code?
    - JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
      >I’m curious if that matters if humans are never going to even read this code? If by never even read you don't include attaching a debugger to solve an issue. 1,000 global mutable variables would make debugging anything an absolute nightmare.
      - senordevnyc 4mo ago
        For us, but for an LLM with the right tooling? Idk…
        JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
        Poe's law is making it hard to tell if your comment is sarcasm or AI-induced psychosis.
        senordevnyc 4mo ago
        My experience is that the people who talk about AI psychosis when it comes to coding are mostly skeptics with their head in the sand. Do you seriously think that in a decade we'll all still have our agents writing code in the same architectures that we were using a few years ago?

stbenjam 4mo ago

I hear a lot of complaints about bun but nothing concrete about what broke in the migration. You are also assuming one prompt, and then arguing against your assumptions with zero evidence. It is lazy arm chair criticism.

JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
>I hear a lot of complaints about bun but nothing concrete about what broke in the migration. Because it hasn't been released yet (at least not outside of some unstable branches). You can find some criticism of the actual slop here though: https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1t4033y/buns_rewrite_it_in_rust_branch/ojzuftw/ https://old.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/1t4033y/buns_rewrite_...
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 4mo ago
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  - JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
    >Dude, stop with “slop”. No. It's a useful term, just like "clickbait" was 10 to 15 years ago (and still is). Trying to police other people calling it slop is reminiscent of Microsoft autobanning anyone using the term "Microslop" on their Discord, it's idiotic language policing and I'm not going to do it, simple as.
- senordevnyc 4mo ago
  Hmm, it sounds like the main example of “slop” there is 1000 global variables. I’m curious if that matters if humans are never going to even read this code?
  - JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
    >I’m curious if that matters if humans are never going to even read this code? If by never even read you don't include attaching a debugger to solve an issue. 1,000 global mutable variables would make debugging anything an absolute nightmare.
    - senordevnyc 4mo ago
      For us, but for an LLM with the right tooling? Idk…
      - JCTheDenthog 4mo ago
        Poe's law is making it hard to tell if your comment is sarcasm or AI-induced psychosis.
        senordevnyc 4mo ago
        My experience is that the people who talk about AI psychosis when it comes to coding are mostly skeptics with their head in the sand. Do you seriously think that in a decade we'll all still have our agents writing code in the same architectures that we were using a few years ago?