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If they are fed up with immigration they are stupid. “Gee we have declining birth rates and we want to deny this pool of labor that might correct course because

If they are fed up with immigration they are stupid. “Gee we have declining birth rates and we want to deny this pool of labor that might correct course because they are brown.” The american empire was built on easy immigration. Turns out the tired and poor that we took in can build empires and win europe’s major wars for them.

10xDev 4mo ago
The job market has imploded and the economy hasn't been growing since 2008. There definitely needs to be a cap.
- kjkjadksj 4mo ago
  If only there were more customers to grow markets! Hmm I wonder how that could be done…
  - 10xDev 4mo ago
    You are not going to get more customers with higher house prices or through greater youth unemployment. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm203nn7lzro https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm203nn7lzro
    - kjkjadksj 4mo ago
      Prices are high from zoning preventing the market to build to meet demand.
whatevaa 4mo ago
Immigration is a duct tape solution to fixing things at this point. It is not going to build you an empire today.
- mcphage 4mo ago
  > It is not going to build you an empire today. Maybe, but lack of it will definitely lose you one.
Dig1t 4mo ago
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- 10xDev 4mo ago
  You are fear mongering here. I do think immigration is double edged, but if you look at the statistics I posted it is very far from replacement level. If you would prefer to have immigrants from the EU instead, then something needs to be done about Brexit.
  - sieabahlpark 4mo ago
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- eesmith 4mo ago
  Ahh, so you want to lock down the border between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom, because if you drop 1 million citizens of Ireland into London they also don't simply become British but are just Irish living in London. The Welsh might have a comment about how much the British government tried to erase the native culture and people who lived on those isles for thousands of years before various foreigners came in on little boats. How are the native Cornish speakers doing these days? The American Empire grew in no little part by specifically importing people from Africa to work as slaves.
- w0de0 4mo ago
  Ah, friend, America was importing people from Africa. Indeed “import” is rather more apt in this case than the several other you’ve ignored (e.g. the mass immigration from Vietnam at the finish of that war). What a horridly dull country it would be were your understanding nearer the truth; what a betrayal of its dream to wish it as you see it; how silly you would seem to your know-nothing antecedents so lumping “Europeans” as one (it is an irony that in their comparatively more nuanced racialism they at least understood a little more of that continent’s ethnic and cultural diversity).
  - Dig1t 4mo ago
    Up until 1965 the US had strict origin requirements for where immigrants could come from and it was capped at a relatively low number throughout much of the 20th century. Yes actually up until 1990 the US was overwhelmingly European ancestry, just go look at any demographic data from before 1990. Many states were 90+% white and indeed many were even higher. The places with African slave descendants in the US were the main sources of “diversity” and were of course the ones with lower social trust and higher crime/poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_d...

10xDev 4mo ago

The job market has imploded and the economy hasn't been growing since 2008. There definitely needs to be a cap.

kjkjadksj 4mo ago
If only there were more customers to grow markets! Hmm I wonder how that could be done…
- 10xDev 4mo ago
  You are not going to get more customers with higher house prices or through greater youth unemployment. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm203nn7lzro https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm203nn7lzro
  - kjkjadksj 4mo ago
    Prices are high from zoning preventing the market to build to meet demand.

whatevaa 4mo ago

Immigration is a duct tape solution to fixing things at this point. It is not going to build you an empire today.

mcphage 4mo ago
> It is not going to build you an empire today. Maybe, but lack of it will definitely lose you one.

Dig1t 4mo ago

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10xDev 4mo ago
You are fear mongering here. I do think immigration is double edged, but if you look at the statistics I posted it is very far from replacement level. If you would prefer to have immigrants from the EU instead, then something needs to be done about Brexit.
- sieabahlpark 4mo ago
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eesmith 4mo ago
Ahh, so you want to lock down the border between the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom, because if you drop 1 million citizens of Ireland into London they also don't simply become British but are just Irish living in London. The Welsh might have a comment about how much the British government tried to erase the native culture and people who lived on those isles for thousands of years before various foreigners came in on little boats. How are the native Cornish speakers doing these days? The American Empire grew in no little part by specifically importing people from Africa to work as slaves.
w0de0 4mo ago
Ah, friend, America was importing people from Africa. Indeed “import” is rather more apt in this case than the several other you’ve ignored (e.g. the mass immigration from Vietnam at the finish of that war). What a horridly dull country it would be were your understanding nearer the truth; what a betrayal of its dream to wish it as you see it; how silly you would seem to your know-nothing antecedents so lumping “Europeans” as one (it is an irony that in their comparatively more nuanced racialism they at least understood a little more of that continent’s ethnic and cultural diversity).
- Dig1t 4mo ago
  Up until 1965 the US had strict origin requirements for where immigrants could come from and it was capped at a relatively low number throughout much of the 20th century. Yes actually up until 1990 the US was overwhelmingly European ancestry, just go look at any demographic data from before 1990. Many states were 90+% white and indeed many were even higher. The places with African slave descendants in the US were the main sources of “diversity” and were of course the ones with lower social trust and higher crime/poverty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographics_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_d...