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> And they keep voting for the Labor party. The alternatives are even more power-mad, fundamentally illiberal parties (Reform, Conservatives), equally pearl-c

by toyg 4mo ago

> And they keep voting for the Labor party. The alternatives are even more power-mad, fundamentally illiberal parties (Reform, Conservatives), equally pearl-clutching ones that will likely continue on the same road as Labour (greens) and unreliable figures that will flip-flop as soon as they are in power (libdems). What's left? Count Binface, I guess.

Fredkin 4mo ago
Conservatives drafted the OSA in 2021. Reform are against it https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/28/reform-uk-vows-to-repeal-borderline-dystopian-online-safety-act https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/28/reform-uk-v... Even the more extreme Restore are against it, and against Digital ID https://www.restorebritain.org.uk/restore_civil_liberties https://www.restorebritain.org.uk/restore_civil_liberties The Greens are ... well they wanted to amend it in 2024 to include a ban on fake news, but that could turn into a mechanism for censorship. And Lib/Lab/Con were all for building even more on top of it in 2024: https://www.handleygill.co.uk/handley-gill-blog/general-election-2024-manifesto-pledges https://www.handleygill.co.uk/handley-gill-blog/general-elec... There are no 'liberal' parties in the UK.
- toyg 4mo ago
  Reform and Restore will say anything to get into power, and then they will turn into ultraconservatives. See also: council tax in pretty much all sizeable councils they got to control, which they promised to keep fixed and then raised immediately after getting in. Their instincts are traditional ultra-right. And yeah, I agree that there is no natural home in UK politics for social liberism. Hence why quipping "they keep voting for this" is just pointless - there are no realistic alternatives, what we have at the moment is the least worst and it's still pretty bad.
liveoneggs 4mo ago
Did you know Count Binface promises to build at least one affordable house?

by toyg 4mo ago

Fredkin 4mo ago

Conservatives drafted the OSA in 2021. Reform are against it https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/28/reform-uk-vows-to-repeal-borderline-dystopian-online-safety-act https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/28/reform-uk-v... Even the more extreme Restore are against it, and against Digital ID https://www.restorebritain.org.uk/restore_civil_liberties https://www.restorebritain.org.uk/restore_civil_liberties The Greens are ... well they wanted to amend it in 2024 to include a ban on fake news, but that could turn into a mechanism for censorship. And Lib/Lab/Con were all for building even more on top of it in 2024: https://www.handleygill.co.uk/handley-gill-blog/general-election-2024-manifesto-pledges https://www.handleygill.co.uk/handley-gill-blog/general-elec... There are no 'liberal' parties in the UK.

toyg 4mo ago
Reform and Restore will say anything to get into power, and then they will turn into ultraconservatives. See also: council tax in pretty much all sizeable councils they got to control, which they promised to keep fixed and then raised immediately after getting in. Their instincts are traditional ultra-right. And yeah, I agree that there is no natural home in UK politics for social liberism. Hence why quipping "they keep voting for this" is just pointless - there are no realistic alternatives, what we have at the moment is the least worst and it's still pretty bad.

liveoneggs 4mo ago

Did you know Count Binface promises to build at least one affordable house?