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Has anyone else noticed how readily identifiable AI generated text is? This is a very cool project, and I suppose it's hard to know for sure, but everything abo

Has anyone else noticed how readily identifiable AI generated text is? This is a very cool project, and I suppose it's hard to know for sure, but everything about the site describing the project "feels" AI generated to me. I do not say this to detract from the value of the project or its very interesting nature, by the way. Just an orthogonal observation.

3form 4mo ago
Definitely AI generated. But the project is interesting, because that space felt a bit dry to me. netboot.xyz and iventoy are cool, but for most basic use cases I always felt these things could be yet further simplified. So I guess I'll go and review the code when I find some time. EDIT: Found the disclosure in the repo: >I've used Claude CLI to help with some parts of this project - mostly making the web UI pretty, as I'm NOT a frontend developer. I also used it to generate the docs, but I review them manually - no automatically-generated AI code goes into the project without review from myself. I guess that's fair.
- sscaryterry 4mo ago
  Yep, not everyone takes AI's output, and uses it verbatim. Sometimes it feels like everyone gets painted with the same brush.
  - 3form 4mo ago
    Yes, that's why I think responsible people should truthfully disclose.
    - sscaryterry 4mo ago
      Since when is disclosure a "should"? Nobody asks if you were stark-naked whilst coding it, high on drugs, having a bad day or any other arbitrary question. Disclosure is something the author volunteered, its his freedom to do with HIS creation as he wishes. Get off your soapbox.
      - betaporter 4mo ago
        Moving forward, perhaps I should state that, "I was fully clothed while preparing this PR."
        doublerabbit 4mo ago
        What a waste of good clothes. I at least vibe code in a pair raggy pair of combat shorts and an xtra-large tshirt.
        sscaryterry 4mo ago
        I usually am not...
neuroticnews25 4mo ago
Yes, this observation has been expressed like a million times here.
saidnooneever 4mo ago
There is a note on there around AI coding which gives a little more hope. But what i would expect from such a component is also a clear indication of how its security is being vetter, tested and attempted to be assured. When using such a server, its of critical importance its secure. If someone can enter it, they can change your images, knock over a machine and get it to boot a rogue image etc. Id be interested what thread models are taken into account. If there is any fuzzing. Perhaps a clear list of all the third party packages it pulls in and assessment of those packages. It sounds like a lot but actually AI can help set up a lot of tooling around this stuff to make it more managable to do a lot of thorough testing / vetting of things. I do think its also interesting project, and ofc it might be somehting that matures over time in this regard. (i am super biassed about security also as its my domain and i've litterally seen colleagues root servers which hosted images for entire infras of companies. thats a scary vector. if you can tamper with 1 PXE boot you can overwrite firmware. (this is not saying anything about secure boot ofc, my experiences with PXE predate that being actively deployed)
- garybuk 3mo ago
  Author here - it's a freaking internal only tool, if you are exposing a PXE server to the outside world you get everything you deserve. What you are describing can happen with any tool, iVentoy literally injects code into your images without you knowing as it's closed source. NetbootXYZ have crazy CI Pipelines and ansible to make it work. I tried to make it as single binary, open and single shot as possible.
Starlevel004 4mo ago
It's the staccato sentences
- betaporter 4mo ago
  Yes, I wonder why the models do that so readily.
  - cmehdy 3mo ago
    People's shortening attention span. Must retain. Explanation still required, therefore statement must concisely outline product. Feature retains attention. Simple outtro. Attention retained. It is not a bug, it is a feature.
sneak 4mo ago
https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LLM_PROSE_TELLS.md https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LL...
Trialog 3mo ago
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garybuk 3mo ago
Author here, I did disclose website + frontend + docs are AI Generated - I see this as a fairly reasonable compromise as 1 person doing this with other jobs and projects. but hey can't please everyone feel free not to use it.

3form 4mo ago

Definitely AI generated. But the project is interesting, because that space felt a bit dry to me. netboot.xyz and iventoy are cool, but for most basic use cases I always felt these things could be yet further simplified. So I guess I'll go and review the code when I find some time. EDIT: Found the disclosure in the repo: >I've used Claude CLI to help with some parts of this project - mostly making the web UI pretty, as I'm NOT a frontend developer. I also used it to generate the docs, but I review them manually - no automatically-generated AI code goes into the project without review from myself. I guess that's fair.

sscaryterry 4mo ago
Yep, not everyone takes AI's output, and uses it verbatim. Sometimes it feels like everyone gets painted with the same brush.
- 3form 4mo ago
  Yes, that's why I think responsible people should truthfully disclose.
  - sscaryterry 4mo ago
    Since when is disclosure a "should"? Nobody asks if you were stark-naked whilst coding it, high on drugs, having a bad day or any other arbitrary question. Disclosure is something the author volunteered, its his freedom to do with HIS creation as he wishes. Get off your soapbox.
    - betaporter 4mo ago
      Moving forward, perhaps I should state that, "I was fully clothed while preparing this PR."
      - doublerabbit 4mo ago
        What a waste of good clothes. I at least vibe code in a pair raggy pair of combat shorts and an xtra-large tshirt.
      - sscaryterry 4mo ago
        I usually am not...

neuroticnews25 4mo ago

Yes, this observation has been expressed like a million times here.

saidnooneever 4mo ago

There is a note on there around AI coding which gives a little more hope. But what i would expect from such a component is also a clear indication of how its security is being vetter, tested and attempted to be assured. When using such a server, its of critical importance its secure. If someone can enter it, they can change your images, knock over a machine and get it to boot a rogue image etc. Id be interested what thread models are taken into account. If there is any fuzzing. Perhaps a clear list of all the third party packages it pulls in and assessment of those packages. It sounds like a lot but actually AI can help set up a lot of tooling around this stuff to make it more managable to do a lot of thorough testing / vetting of things. I do think its also interesting project, and ofc it might be somehting that matures over time in this regard. (i am super biassed about security also as its my domain and i've litterally seen colleagues root servers which hosted images for entire infras of companies. thats a scary vector. if you can tamper with 1 PXE boot you can overwrite firmware. (this is not saying anything about secure boot ofc, my experiences with PXE predate that being actively deployed)

garybuk 3mo ago
Author here - it's a freaking internal only tool, if you are exposing a PXE server to the outside world you get everything you deserve. What you are describing can happen with any tool, iVentoy literally injects code into your images without you knowing as it's closed source. NetbootXYZ have crazy CI Pipelines and ansible to make it work. I tried to make it as single binary, open and single shot as possible.

Starlevel004 4mo ago

It's the staccato sentences

betaporter 4mo ago
Yes, I wonder why the models do that so readily.
- cmehdy 3mo ago
  People's shortening attention span. Must retain. Explanation still required, therefore statement must concisely outline product. Feature retains attention. Simple outtro. Attention retained. It is not a bug, it is a feature.

sneak 4mo ago

https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LLM_PROSE_TELLS.md https://git.eeqj.de/sneak/prompts/src/branch/main/prompts/LL...

Trialog 3mo ago

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garybuk 3mo ago

Author here, I did disclose website + frontend + docs are AI Generated - I see this as a fairly reasonable compromise as 1 person doing this with other jobs and projects. but hey can't please everyone feel free not to use it.