3 ms·

[flagged]

Avicebron 4mo ago
As much as I like to point and guffaw at "bad evil rocket man" the from orbit bit is doing a massive amount of lift (pun not intended) for that price.
- nefarious_ends 4mo ago
  [flagged]
  - snovv_crash 4mo ago
    [flagged]
    - comrade1234 4mo ago
      [flagged]
      - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        [flagged]
        celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        I don't follow American politics that closely, but here in Europe, I don't remember ever seeing Merkel doing this: - https://i.haasie.com/KeO.mp4 https://i.haasie.com/KeO.mp4 Can you please provide videos of them doing the same gesture?
        dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        Took me 15 seconds to find https://sempreentreviagens.com/2012/11/merkel-em-lisboa/ https://sempreentreviagens.com/2012/11/merkel-em-lisboa/
        celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        [flagged]
        dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        [flagged]
        celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        You made a claim. I've asked you to back up your claim with a video. You can't. The reason for this is easy: Merkel, and I'd be willing to bet the others you've mentioned too, haven't done the same as Musk. You lied, made it up. The thing is, you're not on Twitter/X, people here can also perform 15-second searches and dismiss bs claims just as fast, so please don't do that. Not only makes you look bad, but it's also weird doing it for some random famous person that doesn't even know you exist. On a side note, I don't know what annoys me more. The sieg hail itself or grown up people not owning up to what they did and lacking the balls to stand by their views.
  - brookst 4mo ago
    [flagged]
    - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
      [flagged]
      - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        [flagged]
    - burnerRhodov3 4mo ago
      Why is the american taxpayer funding healthcare clinics in 100's of countrys when we don't have free healthcare here in America? >"Such intentions have been damaging our continent for the past 40 years. If the industrial nations really want to help the Africans, they should finally terminate this awful aid... Development aid weakens the local markets everywhere and dampens the spirit of entrepreneurship that we so desperately need." >"When there's a drought in a region of Kenya, our corrupt politicians reflexively cry out for more help... Another portion of the shipment ends up on the black market where the corn is dumped at extremely low prices. Local farmers may as well put down their hoes right away; no one can compete with the UN's World Food Program. And because the farmers go under in the face of this pressure, Kenya would have no reserves to draw on if there actually were a famine next year. It's a simple but fatal cycle."
Aboutplants 4mo ago
Multi billion dollar spend to “see” $2,000 aircraft and try to shoot it down with multi million dollar equipment. The speed to produce and cost effectiveness of these drones are seemingly at a massive advantage right now vs Defense capabilities and straight up cost and looks to be that way for a good while.
- dzhiurgis 4mo ago
  Apples != oranges
- zer00eyz 4mo ago
  > Defense capabilities and straight up cost and looks to be that way for a good while. You are correct, that today, we (USA) lack the capability to defend against this threat in a meaningful way. > Multi billion dollar spend to “see” $2,000 aircraft Look at how we deploy SOCOM assets today: smaller teams in the field far from fixed detection, a satellite to do this job, allows it to be tasked rather than having to deploy more, fixed detection equipment. As part of a larger system it would be integrated by software: see the "Lattice" project from Anduril. > and try to shoot it down with multi million dollar equipment. DAWG, (Defense Autonomous Warfare Group ) has requested a billion dollar base budget and 54 billion of flexible spending (More than the USMC per year) for 2027. There is also the "Replicator" program (I think headed for phase two) to get unit costs back down, and volume up. Facets of this are bleeding into other spend. Andurill openly talks about unit costs, and how few tools are needed to put together their low cost missiles (still more expensive than drones but... headed in the right direction). As for the astronomical size of that budget: it's cheap to build an idea, what is hard is testing. The Ukrainians have a massive advantage here, in that they ship these things to the front line. It's much cheaper to trial things when you don't have to buy something to blow up, repeatedly. The US military has been falling behind for 25 years now (especially the navy: if you want to understand why it has become schrodinger's straight read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 ) and I think what is going on in Ukraine has been eye opening for them.
- tristanj 4mo ago
  The program will track every aircraft flying on earth simultaneously. The level of scope is not comparable.

[flagged]

As much as I like to point and guffaw at "bad evil rocket man" the from orbit bit is doing a massive amount of lift (pun not intended) for that price.

nefarious_ends 4mo ago
[flagged]
- snovv_crash 4mo ago
  [flagged]
  - comrade1234 4mo ago
    [flagged]
    - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
      [flagged]
      - celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        I don't follow American politics that closely, but here in Europe, I don't remember ever seeing Merkel doing this: - https://i.haasie.com/KeO.mp4 https://i.haasie.com/KeO.mp4 Can you please provide videos of them doing the same gesture?
        dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        Took me 15 seconds to find https://sempreentreviagens.com/2012/11/merkel-em-lisboa/ https://sempreentreviagens.com/2012/11/merkel-em-lisboa/
        celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        [flagged]
        dzhiurgis 4mo ago
        [flagged]
        celsoazevedo 4mo ago
        You made a claim. I've asked you to back up your claim with a video. You can't. The reason for this is easy: Merkel, and I'd be willing to bet the others you've mentioned too, haven't done the same as Musk. You lied, made it up. The thing is, you're not on Twitter/X, people here can also perform 15-second searches and dismiss bs claims just as fast, so please don't do that. Not only makes you look bad, but it's also weird doing it for some random famous person that doesn't even know you exist. On a side note, I don't know what annoys me more. The sieg hail itself or grown up people not owning up to what they did and lacking the balls to stand by their views.
- brookst 4mo ago
  [flagged]
  - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
    [flagged]
    - dzhiurgis 4mo ago
      [flagged]
  - burnerRhodov3 4mo ago
    Why is the american taxpayer funding healthcare clinics in 100's of countrys when we don't have free healthcare here in America? >"Such intentions have been damaging our continent for the past 40 years. If the industrial nations really want to help the Africans, they should finally terminate this awful aid... Development aid weakens the local markets everywhere and dampens the spirit of entrepreneurship that we so desperately need." >"When there's a drought in a region of Kenya, our corrupt politicians reflexively cry out for more help... Another portion of the shipment ends up on the black market where the corn is dumped at extremely low prices. Local farmers may as well put down their hoes right away; no one can compete with the UN's World Food Program. And because the farmers go under in the face of this pressure, Kenya would have no reserves to draw on if there actually were a famine next year. It's a simple but fatal cycle."

Aboutplants 4mo ago

Multi billion dollar spend to “see” $2,000 aircraft and try to shoot it down with multi million dollar equipment. The speed to produce and cost effectiveness of these drones are seemingly at a massive advantage right now vs Defense capabilities and straight up cost and looks to be that way for a good while.

dzhiurgis 4mo ago
Apples != oranges
zer00eyz 4mo ago
> Defense capabilities and straight up cost and looks to be that way for a good while. You are correct, that today, we (USA) lack the capability to defend against this threat in a meaningful way. > Multi billion dollar spend to “see” $2,000 aircraft Look at how we deploy SOCOM assets today: smaller teams in the field far from fixed detection, a satellite to do this job, allows it to be tasked rather than having to deploy more, fixed detection equipment. As part of a larger system it would be integrated by software: see the "Lattice" project from Anduril. > and try to shoot it down with multi million dollar equipment. DAWG, (Defense Autonomous Warfare Group ) has requested a billion dollar base budget and 54 billion of flexible spending (More than the USMC per year) for 2027. There is also the "Replicator" program (I think headed for phase two) to get unit costs back down, and volume up. Facets of this are bleeding into other spend. Andurill openly talks about unit costs, and how few tools are needed to put together their low cost missiles (still more expensive than drones but... headed in the right direction). As for the astronomical size of that budget: it's cheap to build an idea, what is hard is testing. The Ukrainians have a massive advantage here, in that they ship these things to the front line. It's much cheaper to trial things when you don't have to buy something to blow up, repeatedly. The US military has been falling behind for 25 years now (especially the navy: if you want to understand why it has become schrodinger's straight read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 ) and I think what is going on in Ukraine has been eye opening for them.
tristanj 4mo ago
The program will track every aircraft flying on earth simultaneously. The level of scope is not comparable.