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Who is "government" Is it not the people? The people don't want this crap. It's a few zealots with their motives that are pushing this down society.

sifex 4mo ago
Your (the people’s) preferences are largely irrelevant here. https://willbrownsberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Gilens-Page-graphs.pdf https://willbrownsberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Gile...
inigyou 4mo ago
Most people want social media banned for under 16s. Some people realized they can use this as an excuse to ram through id checks
solumunus 4mo ago
I want it. As someone who’s trying to keep their kids off screens and social media it’s easier to win the battle when it’s illegal. If I have to provide ID I’ll probably stop using it to and that’s good. Shit is garbage. Hopefully this becomes a global thing and we might get classic internet back, when it was actually good, before social media…
- sunaookami 4mo ago
  You do know that you will need to provide your ID for every single website in the future?
  - Citizen_Lame 4mo ago
    No, no, that's not how it works. They will do remaster of old internet. LOL. People are really dumb.
- 7734128 4mo ago
  The kids will just use illegal plattforms instead, which will not even try to stay above board or protect children.
oliwarner 4mo ago
The people do want this crap. If you have kids of a certain age, you know kids that have had near misses with grooming on Roblox, or have seen the comments from men on child Tiktok accounts. It's a stupid amount of exposure that we just didn't have to deal with as kids. People just don't understand the problems implementing AVS. I'd be much much happier submitting details or a face scan to a .gov.uk service than all these rando verification services.
- anthk 4mo ago
  Then do your parenting and stop limiting the rights of the rest.
  - oliwarner 4mo ago
    Tell me you don't have teenagers without telling me you don't have teenagers. I'd love kids to do what they're told. That would absolutely solve this but as we all know, they don't. But how are your rights limited?
    - cowboylowrez 4mo ago
      Who's buying your kids internet access? Are they getting it on a street corner from a stranger? lol I doubt it.
      - oliwarner 4mo ago
        They could, yes. You can buy 5GB of service for £2.50 at many convenience stores. Paid cash. This is such a weird angle. Like saying shops shouldn't age check for alcohol because the parents would know. They are also friends with other children who have their own parents, devices and network access. Your child doesn't live in a bubble you have control over. These are all the same fantasy arguments that completely ignore the pervasiveness of the internet and the tenacity of determined children. 15 years of waiting to see if social networks can fix this themselves has only shown us how much they want to exploit us all. They earned this.

sifex 4mo ago

Your (the people’s) preferences are largely irrelevant here. https://willbrownsberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Gilens-Page-graphs.pdf https://willbrownsberger.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Gile...

inigyou 4mo ago

Most people want social media banned for under 16s. Some people realized they can use this as an excuse to ram through id checks

solumunus 4mo ago

I want it. As someone who’s trying to keep their kids off screens and social media it’s easier to win the battle when it’s illegal. If I have to provide ID I’ll probably stop using it to and that’s good. Shit is garbage. Hopefully this becomes a global thing and we might get classic internet back, when it was actually good, before social media…

sunaookami 4mo ago
You do know that you will need to provide your ID for every single website in the future?
- Citizen_Lame 4mo ago
  No, no, that's not how it works. They will do remaster of old internet. LOL. People are really dumb.
7734128 4mo ago
The kids will just use illegal plattforms instead, which will not even try to stay above board or protect children.

oliwarner 4mo ago

The people do want this crap. If you have kids of a certain age, you know kids that have had near misses with grooming on Roblox, or have seen the comments from men on child Tiktok accounts. It's a stupid amount of exposure that we just didn't have to deal with as kids. People just don't understand the problems implementing AVS. I'd be much much happier submitting details or a face scan to a .gov.uk service than all these rando verification services.

anthk 4mo ago
Then do your parenting and stop limiting the rights of the rest.
- oliwarner 4mo ago
  Tell me you don't have teenagers without telling me you don't have teenagers. I'd love kids to do what they're told. That would absolutely solve this but as we all know, they don't. But how are your rights limited?
  - cowboylowrez 4mo ago
    Who's buying your kids internet access? Are they getting it on a street corner from a stranger? lol I doubt it.
    - oliwarner 4mo ago
      They could, yes. You can buy 5GB of service for £2.50 at many convenience stores. Paid cash. This is such a weird angle. Like saying shops shouldn't age check for alcohol because the parents would know. They are also friends with other children who have their own parents, devices and network access. Your child doesn't live in a bubble you have control over. These are all the same fantasy arguments that completely ignore the pervasiveness of the internet and the tenacity of determined children. 15 years of waiting to see if social networks can fix this themselves has only shown us how much they want to exploit us all. They earned this.