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> World Needs More Whimsy 100% that! When did everything get serious and look-alike? Anyway, I am taking off, shopping cart racing in the mall...

Henchman21 4mo ago
In the early 2000s the media ecosystem decided to re-tell every story, but darker & “grittier”. Then 9/11 happened and the darkness became permanent. It would be nice if we were coming out of that phase!
- WJW 4mo ago
  Oh don't worry, if history is any indication it shouldn't be much longer than 30-40 years from now. Basically 2 generations from the previous shift. In the meantime, be the change you want to see! You don't have to be darker&grittier yourself just because the media ecosystem has decided that's where the current fashion is.
- eru 4mo ago
  TV Tropes puts the start of darker and grittier more into the 1990s. See https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier And some even in the 1980s or 1970s. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarkerAndEdgier/Batman https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarkerAndEdgier/Batma... I don't think the 2000s were especially darker and grittier?
  - Henchman21 4mo ago
    It easily could've started earlier. But the demarcation line of 9/11/2001 is a pretty stark one, kinda hard to miss. Call it the catalyst that forced everything to be darker & grittier?
    - eru 4mo ago
      I'm not so sure actually. Perhaps plenty of people get fed up with real world darker and grittier and wanted their fiction to be more uplifting?
      - Henchman21 4mo ago
        I guess all I can say is that is my perspective having lived through it. If I understand you correctly, you’re saying we’re starting to come out of this? I would agree completely with that. I think many of us that can see the trend are very very tired of it. Hell I keep watching 4K77 because that movie gives me hope in a way that no other media does. I am certainly a product of my generation :)

Henchman21 4mo ago

In the early 2000s the media ecosystem decided to re-tell every story, but darker & “grittier”. Then 9/11 happened and the darkness became permanent. It would be nice if we were coming out of that phase!

WJW 4mo ago
Oh don't worry, if history is any indication it shouldn't be much longer than 30-40 years from now. Basically 2 generations from the previous shift. In the meantime, be the change you want to see! You don't have to be darker&grittier yourself just because the media ecosystem has decided that's where the current fashion is.
eru 4mo ago
TV Tropes puts the start of darker and grittier more into the 1990s. See https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkerAndEdgier And some even in the 1980s or 1970s. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarkerAndEdgier/Batman https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarkerAndEdgier/Batma... I don't think the 2000s were especially darker and grittier?
- Henchman21 4mo ago
  It easily could've started earlier. But the demarcation line of 9/11/2001 is a pretty stark one, kinda hard to miss. Call it the catalyst that forced everything to be darker & grittier?
  - eru 4mo ago
    I'm not so sure actually. Perhaps plenty of people get fed up with real world darker and grittier and wanted their fiction to be more uplifting?
    - Henchman21 4mo ago
      I guess all I can say is that is my perspective having lived through it. If I understand you correctly, you’re saying we’re starting to come out of this? I would agree completely with that. I think many of us that can see the trend are very very tired of it. Hell I keep watching 4K77 because that movie gives me hope in a way that no other media does. I am certainly a product of my generation :)