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The way you say "outcompeted" makes it seem like you're evaluating efficiency in both cases, but isn't direction the more important criteria? It doesn't really

The way you say "outcompeted" makes it seem like you're evaluating efficiency in both cases, but isn't direction the more important criteria? It doesn't really matter if a car without a steering wheel can be faster than one without on account of being lighter. One is going where you want it to, and the other is crashing into things. The economy, as we're practicing it today, is a car without a steering wheel.

mym1990 4mo ago
Somewhat of a weird example…the one without a steering wheel could be autonomous, or the place you want to get to is in a completely straight line from where you start. Also in your example you have both cars without steering wheels.
- miyoji 4mo ago
  > the one without a steering wheel could be autonomous How silly, even autonomous vehicles have steering. They may be built without the wheel, but they have some kind of steering mechanism > or the place you want to get to is in a completely straight line from where you start I hope your wheels never lose alignment and that you're pointed exactly where you want to go at the start. It's not a weird example at all if you don't come up with crazy unrealistic situations that don't match actual cars or the metaphor.
  - mym1990 4mo ago
    The OP specifically referenced a steering wheel as it relates to weight, so that is what I went off of. Try to not overthink things.
    - miyoji 4mo ago
      Any steering mechanism adds weight. You haven't removed the problem.
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- __MatrixMan__ 4mo ago
  My point is just that progress is a vector, is has direction, and our economic theories generally ignore this and treat it as a scaler: if the number is going up then things must be good. When actually, the number going up just means that we're moving quickly in an arbitrary direction that has nothing to do with our needs and very well may be undermining them.
mhluongo 4mo ago
By that logic, from my perspective - your family life, as we're practicing it today, it a car without a steering wheel. The church down the street from me, that I have nothing to do with, is a car without a steering wheel. My local town, of which I'm only 1 member, is a car without a steering wheel. Just because you see a system that you don't understand or control doesn't mean it's dangerous. The first instinct shouldn't be to centralize power.

mym1990 4mo ago

Somewhat of a weird example…the one without a steering wheel could be autonomous, or the place you want to get to is in a completely straight line from where you start. Also in your example you have both cars without steering wheels.

miyoji 4mo ago
> the one without a steering wheel could be autonomous How silly, even autonomous vehicles have steering. They may be built without the wheel, but they have some kind of steering mechanism > or the place you want to get to is in a completely straight line from where you start I hope your wheels never lose alignment and that you're pointed exactly where you want to go at the start. It's not a weird example at all if you don't come up with crazy unrealistic situations that don't match actual cars or the metaphor.
- mym1990 4mo ago
  The OP specifically referenced a steering wheel as it relates to weight, so that is what I went off of. Try to not overthink things.
  - miyoji 4mo ago
    Any steering mechanism adds weight. You haven't removed the problem.
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__MatrixMan__ 4mo ago
My point is just that progress is a vector, is has direction, and our economic theories generally ignore this and treat it as a scaler: if the number is going up then things must be good. When actually, the number going up just means that we're moving quickly in an arbitrary direction that has nothing to do with our needs and very well may be undermining them.

mhluongo 4mo ago

By that logic, from my perspective - your family life, as we're practicing it today, it a car without a steering wheel. The church down the street from me, that I have nothing to do with, is a car without a steering wheel. My local town, of which I'm only 1 member, is a car without a steering wheel. Just because you see a system that you don't understand or control doesn't mean it's dangerous. The first instinct shouldn't be to centralize power.