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Only 4 years of work to be ready? That sounds pretty optimistic (crying in German)
by dgellow 5mo ago
Only 4 years of work to be ready? That sounds pretty optimistic (crying in German)
- Semaphor 5mo agoReading the Wikipedia page (including the originally projected end date of 2026), it sounds a bit worse. Probably not Germany bad, but I wouldn't bet on the 4 years either.
- ews 5mo agonot 40 years? seriously ??? (cries in Californian)
- SoftTalker 5mo agoI guess one advantage of building a lot of tunnels is you learn how to build tunnels and become able to do it reliably and affordably (at least as affordably as something like tunneling through solid rock can be done).
- bborud 5mo agoAsk a Norwegian to dig a tunnel and they will turn into a gopher on meth. We are the undisputed champions of tunnels in terms of tunnel density. Show us a piece of rock and we'll put a big hole in it. However. Ask a Norwegian to fix a piece of road and you will be staring at a hole in the ground for 4 years while people will take turns leaning on a shovel in that hole while surrounded by at least 4 different categories of supervisor or inspector. But to inject some realism: if they say 4 years they can probably do it in 5. And it'll take another year or so to fix fuck-ups that in retrospect will look stupid and thoughtless, but which are realistically unavoidable. We'll whine about it. A lot. And each week the whole country will be experts on something new. Like evil-sounding compounds for stopping water ingress or how to insulate wires. And then suddenly it starts working.
- PaulDavisThe1st 5mo ago> Ask a Norwegian to dig a tunnel and they will turn into a gopher on meth. We are the undisputed champions of tunnels in terms of tunnel density. Show us a piece of rock and we'll put a big hole in it. You're saying the the general sense from the old germanic language cultures that dwarves and their ilk were somehow Scandanavian is rooted is a well-dug reality?
- pseudohadamard 5mo agoI think they were German. Norway imported large numbers of German miners to extract silver and the like, which is why a lot of the old mines in Norway have German names.
- MomsAVoxell 5mo agoSo just ask Norwegians to dig tunnels around the broken road, duh.
- mapt 5mo agoThe US will take a 3 year project, bid it out as a 10 year project to "save money", and cancel it at year 20 for cost overruns and because it's not projected to be operational until year 30.
- quickthrowman 5mo agoStretching a 3 year project to a 10 year project costs way more money. Labor costs go up every year. My state DOT manages to complete their road projects on schedule, even the large ones. I can think of a handful of projects that turned out like your example, California HSR and some nuclear plants. The vast majority of projects are completed on time.
- richwater 5mo agoI see you've discovered California high speed rail
- bluGill 5mo agoNorway's rock are not bad to dig in. The rock is hard but we know how to work with it and that same hard means you don't have the safety problems of a collapsing roof to worry about while digging.