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Quite right. Prediction: Iran suspends talks (but keeps Hormuz open) whenever Israel attacks, Israel can't help itself, it keeps attacking, so in 60 days, no s

by jjgreen 4mo ago

Quite right. Prediction: Iran suspends talks (but keeps Hormuz open) whenever Israel attacks, Israel can't help itself, it keeps attacking, so in 60 days, no substantive discussions have occurred. So what does the US do then?

the_origami_fox 4mo ago
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- consumer451 4mo ago
  Realpolitik: the decisions being made in Israel must be tougher than ever right now. They are staring at the prospect of their greatest ally funding their greatest enemy. From the outside, at this very moment, the adventure in Iran appears to have been a huge miscalculation.
- sschueller 4mo ago
  > Israel invaded Lebanon and found massive amounts of tunnels and military equipment. After Gaza I will need verified by third party evidence of this. Also what business does Israel have to complain about another states tunnels and weapons? I don't agree with Israel having nuclear weapons, it doesn't give me the right to decide on my own to go into Israel and try to take them away.
  - throw378322 4mo ago
    This is in an area that had an international agreement for demilitarization - with UN peacekeepers that were supposed to prevent that. Also, the invasion came after the north of Israel had been evacuated for more than a year due to constant rocket and missile attacks from that area into Israel. The “third party” that was supposed to prevent that did absolutely nothing.
    - spwa4 4mo ago
      You might want to add that it was not just an international agreement for demilitarization, Hezbollah actually signed a treaty they were going to demilitarize and never did ... UN never responded to anything, not even when Hezbollah started killing UN soldiers. https://www.reuters.com/world/irish-soldier-killed-un-peacekeeping-mission-lebanon-2022-12-15/ https://www.reuters.com/world/irish-soldier-killed-un-peacek... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unifil-says-one-peacekeeper-killed-one-critically-injured-southern-lebanon-2026-03-29/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unifil-says-one-pe... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-pm-condemns-attack-french-unifil-troops-saturday-2026-04-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-pm-condemn... All 4 were killed in relation to the planting of explosive devices on public roads. The two Indonesian UN soldiers drove into a IED set on a public road, and it killed them. The French soldier came under automatic weapons fire after an IED was triggered somehow (ie. it didn't hit their convoy). The Irish soldier was part of a convoy, the car he was in got lost, drove into a village where Hezbollah was installing weapons and was shot at by a crowd along with 3 other soldiers in the same vehicle. The 3 other Irish soldiers survived. Lebanon convicted 6 people (all in relation the Irish UN soldier case). Video evidence was submitted for 5 of the 6 convicted where they identified themselves as hezbollah (you know those videos hezbollah, Iran and hamas post when one of their members gets killed? They record those ahead of time and someone obtained them and showed them to the court). No arrests were ever made, no other cases were ever brought. Not a single one of the convicted ever turned up to court or ever saw a second inside a jail cell.
- amalcon 4mo ago
  > The US should decouple the Hezbollah-Israel war from the Iranian one. Inclusion of Lebanon in the cease-fire is an Iranian condition, not an American one. Since Iran clearly has the leverage here, it's unclear what you expect the US to do to cause this decoupling.
- archagon 4mo ago
  What happens when Israel loses the US as an ally?
  - throw488328 4mo ago
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    - archagon 4mo ago
      Is making a throwaway to post extremely dumb shit on a tech website really the best use of your time?
  - dingaling 4mo ago
    Israel has a very productive and and capable arms industry that could probably survive a US embargo,and its own self-contained intelligence gathering network, so beyond cutting FMS funding the US has very few levers to pull
pseudohadamard 4mo ago
I saw it more the other way round: Netanyahu has been given a magic switch to sabotage the deal whenever he feels like it, and given that he wants to destroy Iran no matter what the cost...

by jjgreen 4mo ago

the_origami_fox 4mo ago

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consumer451 4mo ago
Realpolitik: the decisions being made in Israel must be tougher than ever right now. They are staring at the prospect of their greatest ally funding their greatest enemy. From the outside, at this very moment, the adventure in Iran appears to have been a huge miscalculation.
sschueller 4mo ago
> Israel invaded Lebanon and found massive amounts of tunnels and military equipment. After Gaza I will need verified by third party evidence of this. Also what business does Israel have to complain about another states tunnels and weapons? I don't agree with Israel having nuclear weapons, it doesn't give me the right to decide on my own to go into Israel and try to take them away.
- throw378322 4mo ago
  This is in an area that had an international agreement for demilitarization - with UN peacekeepers that were supposed to prevent that. Also, the invasion came after the north of Israel had been evacuated for more than a year due to constant rocket and missile attacks from that area into Israel. The “third party” that was supposed to prevent that did absolutely nothing.
  - spwa4 4mo ago
    You might want to add that it was not just an international agreement for demilitarization, Hezbollah actually signed a treaty they were going to demilitarize and never did ... UN never responded to anything, not even when Hezbollah started killing UN soldiers. https://www.reuters.com/world/irish-soldier-killed-un-peacekeeping-mission-lebanon-2022-12-15/ https://www.reuters.com/world/irish-soldier-killed-un-peacek... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unifil-says-one-peacekeeper-killed-one-critically-injured-southern-lebanon-2026-03-29/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/unifil-says-one-pe... https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-pm-condemns-attack-french-unifil-troops-saturday-2026-04-18/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanon-pm-condemn... All 4 were killed in relation to the planting of explosive devices on public roads. The two Indonesian UN soldiers drove into a IED set on a public road, and it killed them. The French soldier came under automatic weapons fire after an IED was triggered somehow (ie. it didn't hit their convoy). The Irish soldier was part of a convoy, the car he was in got lost, drove into a village where Hezbollah was installing weapons and was shot at by a crowd along with 3 other soldiers in the same vehicle. The 3 other Irish soldiers survived. Lebanon convicted 6 people (all in relation the Irish UN soldier case). Video evidence was submitted for 5 of the 6 convicted where they identified themselves as hezbollah (you know those videos hezbollah, Iran and hamas post when one of their members gets killed? They record those ahead of time and someone obtained them and showed them to the court). No arrests were ever made, no other cases were ever brought. Not a single one of the convicted ever turned up to court or ever saw a second inside a jail cell.
amalcon 4mo ago
> The US should decouple the Hezbollah-Israel war from the Iranian one. Inclusion of Lebanon in the cease-fire is an Iranian condition, not an American one. Since Iran clearly has the leverage here, it's unclear what you expect the US to do to cause this decoupling.
archagon 4mo ago
What happens when Israel loses the US as an ally?
- throw488328 4mo ago
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  - archagon 4mo ago
    Is making a throwaway to post extremely dumb shit on a tech website really the best use of your time?
- dingaling 4mo ago
  Israel has a very productive and and capable arms industry that could probably survive a US embargo,and its own self-contained intelligence gathering network, so beyond cutting FMS funding the US has very few levers to pull

pseudohadamard 4mo ago

I saw it more the other way round: Netanyahu has been given a magic switch to sabotage the deal whenever he feels like it, and given that he wants to destroy Iran no matter what the cost...