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It was clear that Israel did not want the peace agreement so they were going to sabotage it and this will show that USA has not any control or power over what I

It was clear that Israel did not want the peace agreement so they were going to sabotage it and this will show that USA has not any control or power over what Israel is doing.

Gibbon1 4mo ago
There is a tenancy to believe Israel is a vassal state that does the US's bidding. The actual record says not really. And also Israel is only able to resist being conquered by it's Arab neighbors because of the US. Record says also no.
- pjjpo 4mo ago
  If the latter is no, I do hope the US finally ends military aid to Israel. I really doubt it will happen, but if the record says it should be ok, then that would be really great.
  - da-x 4mo ago
    Israel itself is in favor of this, to reduce US influence on its arms exports. Everybody wins.
    - salemh 4mo ago
      Its just sleight of hand. Congress quietly moves to integrate US and Israeli militaries https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/ Netanyahu Pushes Congress to Adopt a New Structure for US Military Aid to Israel https://truthout.org/articles/netanyahu-pushes-congress-to-adopt-a-new-structure-for-us-military-aid-to-israel/ https://truthout.org/articles/netanyahu-pushes-congress-to-a...
      - ndiddy 4mo ago
        Yeah the goal isn't to actually end military aid to Israel, it's to move the military aid under the vague DoD accounting process so nobody outside the DoD knows what's actually being sent.
      - da-x 4mo ago
        The "fuse the militaries / more susceptible to Israeli whims" framing seems to be the hand-wavy part of those articles. If you read the referred Section 224 you'd see details of the expanded scope of cooperation in tech domains and info sharing, and also in transparency and oversight.
spwa4 4mo ago
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- _fs 4mo ago
  I dont think anyone believes Iran is worried about the people of Lebanon. The point people are making is that for some reason Iran has all the power in a supposed cease fire and used that power to add requirements that were not possible to enforce by the US. US was outplayed and outsmarted by a supposed "lesser" nation. Now when the US makes "defensive attacks" on Iran when Iran once again closes the straight due to Israeli violations (even though they were not part of the MoU), it further erodes the US moral high ground.
  - spwa4 4mo ago
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It was clear that Israel did not want the peace agreement so they were going to sabotage it and this will show that USA has not any control or power over what Israel is doing.

Gibbon1 4mo ago

There is a tenancy to believe Israel is a vassal state that does the US's bidding. The actual record says not really. And also Israel is only able to resist being conquered by it's Arab neighbors because of the US. Record says also no.

pjjpo 4mo ago
If the latter is no, I do hope the US finally ends military aid to Israel. I really doubt it will happen, but if the record says it should be ok, then that would be really great.
- da-x 4mo ago
  Israel itself is in favor of this, to reduce US influence on its arms exports. Everybody wins.
  - salemh 4mo ago
    Its just sleight of hand. Congress quietly moves to integrate US and Israeli militaries https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/ https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/ Netanyahu Pushes Congress to Adopt a New Structure for US Military Aid to Israel https://truthout.org/articles/netanyahu-pushes-congress-to-adopt-a-new-structure-for-us-military-aid-to-israel/ https://truthout.org/articles/netanyahu-pushes-congress-to-a...
    - ndiddy 4mo ago
      Yeah the goal isn't to actually end military aid to Israel, it's to move the military aid under the vague DoD accounting process so nobody outside the DoD knows what's actually being sent.
    - da-x 4mo ago
      The "fuse the militaries / more susceptible to Israeli whims" framing seems to be the hand-wavy part of those articles. If you read the referred Section 224 you'd see details of the expanded scope of cooperation in tech domains and info sharing, and also in transparency and oversight.

spwa4 4mo ago

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_fs 4mo ago
I dont think anyone believes Iran is worried about the people of Lebanon. The point people are making is that for some reason Iran has all the power in a supposed cease fire and used that power to add requirements that were not possible to enforce by the US. US was outplayed and outsmarted by a supposed "lesser" nation. Now when the US makes "defensive attacks" on Iran when Iran once again closes the straight due to Israeli violations (even though they were not part of the MoU), it further erodes the US moral high ground.
- spwa4 4mo ago
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