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Their investment in the company and their ability to use the services are orthogonal. I'm sure they're not happy about losing access to the model, but the amou

Their investment in the company and their ability to use the services are orthogonal. I'm sure they're not happy about losing access to the model, but the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it.

shimman 5mo ago
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- dang 5mo ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments, flamebait, and snark? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
notnullorvoid 5mo ago
The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment. Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay.
- Aurornis 5mo ago
  > The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment. Anthropic's services keep bumping into capacity limits even with Fable disabled. Revenue is not a problem. This controversy has been good publicity for them: So powerful the government tried to block it! > Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay. Reneging on the deal implies Anthropic decided not to offer it. That wasn't the case. The government has temporarily restricted it.
basisword 5mo ago
>> the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it Not if the USG locks models down to US citizens. The market will be too small and the model companies have already pumped in far too much money to limit their market to US citizens. Given that most big companies have a global presence they're going to need models that all of their employees can use. They're not going to deploy different products to different employees.
- Terretta 5mo ago
  > The market will be too small Don't count heads. Use tech spend per capita and wallet share.
- fragmede 5mo ago
  Route the user to a different server based on the citizenship info set on their account? Yeah that'sway to hard for computers and computer programmers to do. There must be more than 100 countries out there! Computers can't possibly count that high.
  - rob74 5mo ago
    I doubt the US government will be satisfied with allowing access to Fable if the user simply selects "USA" in the "citizenship" dropdown?
tlavoie 5mo ago
Not if the company implodes...
LunaSea 5mo ago
They aren't orthogonal. If you invested in the company, you are a part owner. If you are part owner, you deserve to have access to any company internals.
- dismalpedigree 5mo ago
  So i buy one share of stock in a company and now I have access to all the internals? Can i go onsite and demand meetings?
  - LunaSea 5mo ago
    What do you think that due diligence is? Its literally a company opening up its internals to reassure a potential investors about the tech.

shimman 5mo ago

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dang 5mo ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments, flamebait, and snark? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

notnullorvoid 5mo ago

The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment. Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay.

Aurornis 5mo ago
> The company having it's product market restricted will negatively impact their financial investment. Anthropic's services keep bumping into capacity limits even with Fable disabled. Revenue is not a problem. This controversy has been good publicity for them: So powerful the government tried to block it! > Also if you have an agreement with a company for them to provide you with a service, and investing in them is part of that deal, reneging on the service part still isn't okay. Reneging on the deal implies Anthropic decided not to offer it. That wasn't the case. The government has temporarily restricted it.

basisword 5mo ago

>> the amount of money they're going to make from their investment will more than make up for it Not if the USG locks models down to US citizens. The market will be too small and the model companies have already pumped in far too much money to limit their market to US citizens. Given that most big companies have a global presence they're going to need models that all of their employees can use. They're not going to deploy different products to different employees.

Terretta 5mo ago
> The market will be too small Don't count heads. Use tech spend per capita and wallet share.
fragmede 5mo ago
Route the user to a different server based on the citizenship info set on their account? Yeah that'sway to hard for computers and computer programmers to do. There must be more than 100 countries out there! Computers can't possibly count that high.
- rob74 5mo ago
  I doubt the US government will be satisfied with allowing access to Fable if the user simply selects "USA" in the "citizenship" dropdown?

tlavoie 5mo ago

Not if the company implodes...

LunaSea 5mo ago

They aren't orthogonal. If you invested in the company, you are a part owner. If you are part owner, you deserve to have access to any company internals.

dismalpedigree 5mo ago
So i buy one share of stock in a company and now I have access to all the internals? Can i go onsite and demand meetings?
- LunaSea 5mo ago
  What do you think that due diligence is? Its literally a company opening up its internals to reassure a potential investors about the tech.