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The Wired headline reframes the issue in a way that’s misleading. SK Telecom was a previously resolved issue (as in prior to Fable launch). It may have been a

The Wired headline reframes the issue in a way that’s misleading. SK Telecom was a previously resolved issue (as in prior to Fable launch). It may have been a contributing factor, but the crux of the shutdown was the industry reporting of Fable jailbreaks (reportedly spearheaded by Amazon CEO Andy Jassy). The more interesting and honest angle is that the industry which has taken the seriousness of Glasswing at face value felt blindsided by Fable release and totally exposed by the residual risk, when they know they still have a months-long bugfixing backlog exposed by Glasswing and are desperate to buy more time. This misleading looks deliberate on Wired’s part, to appear as though they’re getting a scoop when they’re really just being dishonest. Shameful.

meowface 4mo ago
Wired has been NY Post-tier (of the inverse polarity) for several years, now.
- cyanydeez 4mo ago
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  - meowface 4mo ago
    If you check my post history, I'm very left-leaning. I'm just establishment-left+woke (i.e., liberal) rather than populist-left+socialist, and Wired is populist-left. I'm the kind of person who actually likes Obama, for example. It's actually unfortunate, because a not very credible publication writing about the vile behavior of the Trump administration (including Elon Musk personally literally killing hundreds of thousands of children, and possibly millions) only serves to help them. Those particular stories may or may not be fine, but I've seen enough truly abysmal stories to not have any trust in them as an organization. Like, within one second of opening the article I already saw the headline is deeply misleading and then checked the comments here to see if anyone else had noticed (and they did). It's a joke. The article doesn't even make sense. It's like an AI-generated high school essay forced to hamfist a response to a contrived prompt.
    - jibe 4mo ago
      “Elon Musk personally literally killing hundreds of thousands of children” What’s that high quality news source you got that one from?
      - meowface 4mo ago
        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/opinion/elon-musk-doge-usaid.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/opinion/elon-musk-doge-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/usaid-spending-trump-musk.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/usaid-spending-tr... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/19/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-south-sudan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/19/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/bill-gates-elon-musk-killing-children.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/bill-gates-elon-musk-k... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid-cuts-deaths-fact-checker/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/29/sudan-usaid-funding-cuts-trump-musk/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/29/sudan-usaid-...
- embedding-shape 4mo ago
  Is there any serious journalistic magazines/papers left nowadays? Felt like ultimately every single one of them succumbed to the chase of the clickbait in the end.
  - Barbing 4mo ago
    Ars Technica still fights a good fight, in spite of Conde buyout.
nailer 4mo ago
Yep - the "company at the center" of this is Amazon. But they're not alone, I was able to jailbreak Fable accidentally last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48576628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48576628
- Cupprum 4mo ago
  Is that called jailbreak?
  - theplumber 4mo ago
    Yeah ! You should close your eyes on dangerous source code nowadays. Think about a kind of DRM for programming. Perhaps the future is a prompt terminal with no access to the source code. Of course the code should be deployed only on a “secure” anthropic platform.
  - nailer 4mo ago
    Yes. The biology/infosec fallback to Opus is the jail. Promoting to get around it (in my case accidentally) and have Fabre find exploits is the jailbreak.
    - 3836293648 4mo ago
      Only if you were jailed correctly. Getting out of jail when you shouldn't've been jailed in the first place is not a jailbreak
      - nailer 3mo ago
        True. But in the fictional scenario where I had NOT produced the Rust code myself, I could have lied and said I made it (jailbreaking was literally asking it to check the program I had made for program vulnerabilities or readability issues - perhaps the nosie from 'readability' also contributed).
trunnell 4mo ago
> honest angle is that the industry [felt] exposed by the residual risk [and] have a months-long bugfixing backlog exposed by Glasswing Two problems with this theory. 1. Amazon complaining to the White House wouldn't have been the opening salvo. Amazon and Anthropic would find it much easier to talk to each other than go through the White House. We'd need evidence that Amazon (and probably others) already asked Anthropic to not release a Mythos-class model but Anthropic released it anyway. Are they on record saying this? 2. The jailbreak Amazon found needs to be real. Maybe the White House staffers are not AI experts and they don't really understand what a jailbreak is... but it's much harder to make that claim about Andy Jassy. For the jailbreak to be the real reason for the export control order, the jailbreak would need to be significant and cause material harm to Amazon. Then Jassy might pass it along to the White House assuming he already was refused by Dario. But there is no evidence the jailbreak was real. There is one story that it amounted to a request, "fix this code." In any case, Anthropic is on record saying the so-called jailbreak didn't enable any vulnerability work that couldn't already be done by other models.
- tiahura 4mo ago
  It’s been reported that Amazon has said in the last few days that the gov reached out to Amazon first for their opinion.
dmix 4mo ago
Most headlines seem to be misleading these days. Social media broke journalism.
- htx80nerd 4mo ago
  actually been like that for ages but people notice it a lot now and have a way to talk about it openly. mid 2000s CNN was really bad about this kind of thing. headline sounds shocking but once you got to paragraph 4 or so the story starts to change. then when you get to the bottom paragraphs the truth starts to come out - in stark contrast to the headline. not sure how they are these days.
  - wbl 4mo ago
    Things really did get worse as online gave visibility into what drives clocks and undermines the value of reputation.
AgentME 4mo ago
Is there any interpretation where Amazon is involved but for a reason besides trying to screw over Anthropic? I don't see why Amazon would act against Anthropic when they have a deal to offer Anthropic models on AWS.
- Terretta 4mo ago
  https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/fedramp/ https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/fedramp/

meowface 4mo ago

Wired has been NY Post-tier (of the inverse polarity) for several years, now.

cyanydeez 4mo ago
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- meowface 4mo ago
  If you check my post history, I'm very left-leaning. I'm just establishment-left+woke (i.e., liberal) rather than populist-left+socialist, and Wired is populist-left. I'm the kind of person who actually likes Obama, for example. It's actually unfortunate, because a not very credible publication writing about the vile behavior of the Trump administration (including Elon Musk personally literally killing hundreds of thousands of children, and possibly millions) only serves to help them. Those particular stories may or may not be fine, but I've seen enough truly abysmal stories to not have any trust in them as an organization. Like, within one second of opening the article I already saw the headline is deeply misleading and then checked the comments here to see if anyone else had noticed (and they did). It's a joke. The article doesn't even make sense. It's like an AI-generated high school essay forced to hamfist a response to a contrived prompt.
  - jibe 4mo ago
    “Elon Musk personally literally killing hundreds of thousands of children” What’s that high quality news source you got that one from?
    - meowface 4mo ago
      https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/09/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts.... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/opinion/elon-musk-doge-usaid.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/opinion/elon-musk-doge-us... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/usaid-spending-trump-musk.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/usaid-spending-tr... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/19/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-south-sudan.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/19/opinion/foreign-aid-cuts-... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/bill-gates-elon-musk-killing-children.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/bill-gates-elon-musk-k... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid-cuts-deaths-fact-checker/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/29/sudan-usaid-funding-cuts-trump-musk/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/06/29/sudan-usaid-...
embedding-shape 4mo ago
Is there any serious journalistic magazines/papers left nowadays? Felt like ultimately every single one of them succumbed to the chase of the clickbait in the end.
- Barbing 4mo ago
  Ars Technica still fights a good fight, in spite of Conde buyout.

nailer 4mo ago

Yep - the "company at the center" of this is Amazon. But they're not alone, I was able to jailbreak Fable accidentally last week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48576628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48576628

Cupprum 4mo ago
Is that called jailbreak?
- theplumber 4mo ago
  Yeah ! You should close your eyes on dangerous source code nowadays. Think about a kind of DRM for programming. Perhaps the future is a prompt terminal with no access to the source code. Of course the code should be deployed only on a “secure” anthropic platform.
- nailer 4mo ago
  Yes. The biology/infosec fallback to Opus is the jail. Promoting to get around it (in my case accidentally) and have Fabre find exploits is the jailbreak.
  - 3836293648 4mo ago
    Only if you were jailed correctly. Getting out of jail when you shouldn't've been jailed in the first place is not a jailbreak
    - nailer 3mo ago
      True. But in the fictional scenario where I had NOT produced the Rust code myself, I could have lied and said I made it (jailbreaking was literally asking it to check the program I had made for program vulnerabilities or readability issues - perhaps the nosie from 'readability' also contributed).

trunnell 4mo ago

> honest angle is that the industry [felt] exposed by the residual risk [and] have a months-long bugfixing backlog exposed by Glasswing Two problems with this theory. 1. Amazon complaining to the White House wouldn't have been the opening salvo. Amazon and Anthropic would find it much easier to talk to each other than go through the White House. We'd need evidence that Amazon (and probably others) already asked Anthropic to not release a Mythos-class model but Anthropic released it anyway. Are they on record saying this? 2. The jailbreak Amazon found needs to be real. Maybe the White House staffers are not AI experts and they don't really understand what a jailbreak is... but it's much harder to make that claim about Andy Jassy. For the jailbreak to be the real reason for the export control order, the jailbreak would need to be significant and cause material harm to Amazon. Then Jassy might pass it along to the White House assuming he already was refused by Dario. But there is no evidence the jailbreak was real. There is one story that it amounted to a request, "fix this code." In any case, Anthropic is on record saying the so-called jailbreak didn't enable any vulnerability work that couldn't already be done by other models.

tiahura 4mo ago
It’s been reported that Amazon has said in the last few days that the gov reached out to Amazon first for their opinion.

dmix 4mo ago

Most headlines seem to be misleading these days. Social media broke journalism.

htx80nerd 4mo ago
actually been like that for ages but people notice it a lot now and have a way to talk about it openly. mid 2000s CNN was really bad about this kind of thing. headline sounds shocking but once you got to paragraph 4 or so the story starts to change. then when you get to the bottom paragraphs the truth starts to come out - in stark contrast to the headline. not sure how they are these days.
- wbl 4mo ago
  Things really did get worse as online gave visibility into what drives clocks and undermines the value of reputation.

AgentME 4mo ago

Is there any interpretation where Amazon is involved but for a reason besides trying to screw over Anthropic? I don't see why Amazon would act against Anthropic when they have a deal to offer Anthropic models on AWS.

Terretta 4mo ago
https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/govcloud-us/ https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/fedramp/ https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/fedramp/