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If you do any kind of serious work, you need a text editor. Emacs is still one of the best around. It's fast. It's configurable. And it's under your control. Yo

by jlouis 4mo ago

If you do any kind of serious work, you need a text editor. Emacs is still one of the best around. It's fast. It's configurable. And it's under your control. You won't suddenly find your text editor "upgraded" with tons of new features you never asked for. It's all opt-in.

hollerith 4mo ago
>You won't suddenly find your text editor "upgraded" with tons of new features you never asked for. I never asked for native compilation implemented via the trampoline technique, which increases attack surface (because it causes Emacs to routinely execute files in a known-by-attackers location in my home directory) and makes debugging harder, but I'm stuck with it if I want my Emacs to speak the Wayland protocol (and I do). Ditto the clumsy bolting-on of lexical scope.
- DunningKruger9 4mo ago
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- vkazanov 4mo ago
  Native compilation is optional as you surely know. It also has nothing to do with Wayland. And what's wrong with adding lexical scope!? I do have some concerns about certain features but the ones listed do work, and work great.
  - hollerith 4mo ago
    You can't build an Emacs with Wayland (PGTK) support without native comp. ./configure will complain and refuse to do it.
    - vkazanov 4mo ago
      This sounds like a bug! I mean, this makes libgccjit a hard dependency for pgtk which just doesnt make sense
- drob518 4mo ago
  Sigh. Don’t be “that guy.”
enbugger 4mo ago
> It's fast. super slow on windows
- asdff 4mo ago
  That's surprising considering it was fast on computers from 30 years ago
  - infamouscow 4mo ago
    The default garbage collection tunables are also from 30 years ago. Adding the GCMH (Garbage Collector Magic Hack) package resolves much of the slowdown, and native compilation covers the remaining gap quite nicely.
- bowsamic 4mo ago
  Same on macOS. Could be that we are missing some native compilation option though
wmedrano 4mo ago
haha, I definitely wouldn't call my setup fast. But it did get a lot better after Native Compilation and a lot of the major stuff has started async to feel more responsive at least.
zhxhhshshs 4mo ago
It’s slow, bloated and packed to the brim with “features” you will never need. There is Only One. En garde!

by jlouis 4mo ago

hollerith 4mo ago

>You won't suddenly find your text editor "upgraded" with tons of new features you never asked for. I never asked for native compilation implemented via the trampoline technique, which increases attack surface (because it causes Emacs to routinely execute files in a known-by-attackers location in my home directory) and makes debugging harder, but I'm stuck with it if I want my Emacs to speak the Wayland protocol (and I do). Ditto the clumsy bolting-on of lexical scope.

DunningKruger9 4mo ago
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vkazanov 4mo ago
Native compilation is optional as you surely know. It also has nothing to do with Wayland. And what's wrong with adding lexical scope!? I do have some concerns about certain features but the ones listed do work, and work great.
- hollerith 4mo ago
  You can't build an Emacs with Wayland (PGTK) support without native comp. ./configure will complain and refuse to do it.
  - vkazanov 4mo ago
    This sounds like a bug! I mean, this makes libgccjit a hard dependency for pgtk which just doesnt make sense
drob518 4mo ago
Sigh. Don’t be “that guy.”

enbugger 4mo ago

> It's fast. super slow on windows

asdff 4mo ago
That's surprising considering it was fast on computers from 30 years ago
- infamouscow 4mo ago
  The default garbage collection tunables are also from 30 years ago. Adding the GCMH (Garbage Collector Magic Hack) package resolves much of the slowdown, and native compilation covers the remaining gap quite nicely.
bowsamic 4mo ago
Same on macOS. Could be that we are missing some native compilation option though

wmedrano 4mo ago

haha, I definitely wouldn't call my setup fast. But it did get a lot better after Native Compilation and a lot of the major stuff has started async to feel more responsive at least.

zhxhhshshs 4mo ago

It’s slow, bloated and packed to the brim with “features” you will never need. There is Only One. En garde!