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Store page: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products/enas https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products... $3999

by kyrra 4mo ago

mpeg 4mo ago
That seems reasonable, I don't buy NAS for datacenters (just run a modest 80tb one for my home lab) but equivalent rackmount 16-bay ones from other vendors would be more expensive (maybe $5k-6k?) and with less polish.
- lostlogin 4mo ago
  > a modest 80tb one for my home lab I laughed.
  - derekdahmer 4mo ago
    It's wild but 80TB actually is modest compared to some of the enthusiasts on /r/homelab and /r/datahoarders that are running 300TB NAS servers at home. 80TB can still maybe fit in a single box. (8x10TB)
    - lostlogin 4mo ago
      Synology systems will take 24TB drives (let’s not dive into which drives they’ll take). However there is a volume limit depending on processor. https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/Why_does_my_Synology_NAS_have_a_single_volume_size_limitation https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/Why_does_my_Synol...
- kube-system 4mo ago
  Yeah, I'd certainly take it over this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1618911-REG/synology_rackstation_rs4021xs_16_bay_nas.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1618911-REG/synology_...
- myrandomcomment 4mo ago
  I paid ~$4900 in October 2021 for a TrueNAS MiniXL+ with 8x14TB, 2x480G SSD (L2ARC/ZIL) and 64GB RAM, 2x10Gbps, with 3 year support direct from IxSystems. The CPU is an 8 core Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C3758 @ 2.20GHzStill going strong. I had drive failure and they replaced it. I had a fan failure and they replaced the fans. The price of the UI kit in 2026 seems to be reasonable.
toomuchtodo 4mo ago
Pays for itself in ~40 months of not paying $100/month for streaming services. Edit: Drives are not included :(
- ericd 4mo ago
  The drives are the expensive part, though - 16x24TB HDDs adds another $11k. (Not that you need that much for canceling streaming, I’d get a home Synology or diy TrueNAS for that anyway)
  - Hamuko 4mo ago
    As a Synology owner, I would not recommend anyone to get into Synology at this point after the drive BS they pulled off. I'm planning on building myself a DIY server with Unraid instead.
    - ericd 4mo ago
      I’m still on DSM 6, and just added a new unapproved drive, and it was just a click through warning. Is it much worse on the newer DSM versions? EDIT oof yeah that’s pretty horrible, I take back my Synology recc. Looks like it’s partly model-based restrictions. That’s a shame, they were nice as relatively low maintenance devices.
    - bane 4mo ago
      Happy Unraid user here. The ability to mix and match drives in the main Unraid Array is of course the original feature and draw. Adding a few TB at a time for whatever leftover money I had after taxes each year is really appealing. But they've added SSD write caching, VMs, Docker containers, a Docker "app store", and recently ZFS drive clusters (mostly for SSD storage). It's pretty great and incredibly easy to admin. I presently have well over 125TB of mixed Unraid and ZFS cluster storage in a Fractal 7 XL. It's running around 30 containers, a handful of VMs, Tailscale and literally requires less than 20 minutes a week of system level administration (probably more like 5-10 minutes). Of course I'm spending far more than that messing with the actual apps, but that's a personal problem ;) It gets regular updates, and I'm sure my uptime would exceed a couple of years except for reboots needed to handle the updates and the occasional power outage. You can ignore the updates of course to min-max your uptime. ZFS has been rock solid on my SSD array. You can recreate the core array bits with a bit of effort and MergeFS and SnapRAID, add Docker, some VM host system, ZFS and a few other things and you can get Unraid "for free" with a fairly normal Linux distro, but the administrative overhead will be a bit more. One tradeoff is that Unraid exposes a core set of features for each of these, but you could get to quite a bit more specific of a configuration if you go the regular Linux route. The Unraid devs are slowly adding more ZFS features (for example) to the regular interface, but it takes time. Some more expeditionary Unraid user attempt to use those features more or less at their risk with results reported in various forums.

Store page: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products/enas https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products... $3999

by kyrra 4mo ago

Store page: https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products/enas https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/network-storage/products... $3999

mpeg 4mo ago

That seems reasonable, I don't buy NAS for datacenters (just run a modest 80tb one for my home lab) but equivalent rackmount 16-bay ones from other vendors would be more expensive (maybe $5k-6k?) and with less polish.

lostlogin 4mo ago
> a modest 80tb one for my home lab I laughed.
- derekdahmer 4mo ago
  It's wild but 80TB actually is modest compared to some of the enthusiasts on /r/homelab and /r/datahoarders that are running 300TB NAS servers at home. 80TB can still maybe fit in a single box. (8x10TB)
  - lostlogin 4mo ago
    Synology systems will take 24TB drives (let’s not dive into which drives they’ll take). However there is a volume limit depending on processor. https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/Why_does_my_Synology_NAS_have_a_single_volume_size_limitation https://kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/tutorial/Why_does_my_Synol...
kube-system 4mo ago
Yeah, I'd certainly take it over this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1618911-REG/synology_rackstation_rs4021xs_16_bay_nas.html https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1618911-REG/synology_...
myrandomcomment 4mo ago
I paid ~$4900 in October 2021 for a TrueNAS MiniXL+ with 8x14TB, 2x480G SSD (L2ARC/ZIL) and 64GB RAM, 2x10Gbps, with 3 year support direct from IxSystems. The CPU is an 8 core Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU C3758 @ 2.20GHzStill going strong. I had drive failure and they replaced it. I had a fan failure and they replaced the fans. The price of the UI kit in 2026 seems to be reasonable.

toomuchtodo 4mo ago

Pays for itself in ~40 months of not paying $100/month for streaming services. Edit: Drives are not included :(

ericd 4mo ago
The drives are the expensive part, though - 16x24TB HDDs adds another $11k. (Not that you need that much for canceling streaming, I’d get a home Synology or diy TrueNAS for that anyway)
- Hamuko 4mo ago
  As a Synology owner, I would not recommend anyone to get into Synology at this point after the drive BS they pulled off. I'm planning on building myself a DIY server with Unraid instead.
  - ericd 4mo ago
    I’m still on DSM 6, and just added a new unapproved drive, and it was just a click through warning. Is it much worse on the newer DSM versions? EDIT oof yeah that’s pretty horrible, I take back my Synology recc. Looks like it’s partly model-based restrictions. That’s a shame, they were nice as relatively low maintenance devices.
  - bane 4mo ago
    Happy Unraid user here. The ability to mix and match drives in the main Unraid Array is of course the original feature and draw. Adding a few TB at a time for whatever leftover money I had after taxes each year is really appealing. But they've added SSD write caching, VMs, Docker containers, a Docker "app store", and recently ZFS drive clusters (mostly for SSD storage). It's pretty great and incredibly easy to admin. I presently have well over 125TB of mixed Unraid and ZFS cluster storage in a Fractal 7 XL. It's running around 30 containers, a handful of VMs, Tailscale and literally requires less than 20 minutes a week of system level administration (probably more like 5-10 minutes). Of course I'm spending far more than that messing with the actual apps, but that's a personal problem ;) It gets regular updates, and I'm sure my uptime would exceed a couple of years except for reboots needed to handle the updates and the occasional power outage. You can ignore the updates of course to min-max your uptime. ZFS has been rock solid on my SSD array. You can recreate the core array bits with a bit of effort and MergeFS and SnapRAID, add Docker, some VM host system, ZFS and a few other things and you can get Unraid "for free" with a fairly normal Linux distro, but the administrative overhead will be a bit more. One tradeoff is that Unraid exposes a core set of features for each of these, but you could get to quite a bit more specific of a configuration if you go the regular Linux route. The Unraid devs are slowly adding more ZFS features (for example) to the regular interface, but it takes time. Some more expeditionary Unraid user attempt to use those features more or less at their risk with results reported in various forums.