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> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky - run by a non-profit foundation - Modal - that is building everything in the open, with full transpare
by xg15 4mo ago
> Europe already has an ATproto social network - Eurosky - run by a non-profit foundation - Modal - that is building everything in the open, with full transparency, sharing all the steps in their development roadmap:
And weirdly, there was never a peep about this in the press - while the W Social launch was on national news and a bunch of high-profile EU politicians immediately joined. What's going on here?
- RobotToaster 4mo agoMastodon is also European
- Cider9986 4mo agoMastodon is too secure and private for them.
- maelito 4mo agoIt means that marketers won over technical, factual people.
- xg15 4mo agoThe marketers or the so far unnamed private investors.
- oytis 4mo agoNot marketers, lobbyists
- rapnie 4mo agoBoth? But yea, if you see the Advisory Board shown in an image lower in the article, you get the general idea.
- oytis 4mo agoObama making an account on Twitter is a marketers' success. Twitter became popular first, politicians wanted to appear there second. WSocial just went to politicians directly,it's not known by general public. Good news is, it rarely helps with commercial success
- pocksuppet 4mo agoProbably marketers in this one. Marketers who know how to access politicians adn get invited to WEF. The distinction: marketers know how to trick people, lobbyists bribe them.
- oytis 4mo agoThat's not lobbyism, that's straight corruption. Lobbyism is, at least in theory, about convincing politicians
- pocksuppet 4mo agoIn practice it's about bribing them or at least telling them personal gains. Like if you tell a politician he should support the war on Iran because he owns lots of oil stocks and they'll go up. Marketing is telling a politician this app is the future of EU social chat so you need to be using it.
- lenerdenator 4mo agoYou would have to be exceptionally naïve to think that a good chunk of the "lobbying" done doesn't involve some sort of exchange of something of value.
- calgoo 4mo agoIts legalized bribes, basically pay to play these days.
- lenerdenator 4mo agoNot lobbyists, bribers.
- CurryFurry 4mo agoNGOs are also lobbyists, and of the worse kind.
- ninjalanternshk 4mo agoNGOs are not lobbyists. Some NGOs lobby/employ lobbyists. That’s not the same thing.
- jasonvorhe 4mo agoThey want people to get used to digital id.
- jauntywundrkind 4mo agoThis, a thousand times this. A network where mandatory government id is fine. Sure it maybe run by the shadiest sharks. But these are sharks that are pushing for the anti-internet, the anti-speech, the anti-privacy, and that's all that matters to the politicos of the world right now. https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-fictional-metrics-and-the-beauty-of-open-data/ https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-fictional-metrics-and... Left right center: every politician is aligned on trying to put the Declaration of Indepdence of Cyberspace out for good. They all want to end un-attributed speech. In the US that means KOSA, and once again, bipartisan agreement comes only for screwing over speech, rights, freedom, and the citizenry. https://punchbowl.news/article/tech/house-kosa/ https://punchbowl.news/article/tech/house-kosa/
- AndrewKemendo 4mo agoThere’s no money or power to be had in providing free/libre tools to the masses So there’s no chance a politician or marketer or anyone who has commerce as their primary motivation will spend any effort promoting it
- Geezus_42 4mo agoThe incentive is control.