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Not true. Rent for one bedroom apartment was 500$ in 1998, cold / hot water included other utilities are extra. I was making 35K back then and it was enough t

Not true. Rent for one bedroom apartment was 500$ in 1998, cold / hot water included other utilities are extra. I was making 35K back then and it was enough to afford relatively good living - car, groceries, gas, occasional meal for 2 at a restaurant. And gas was 35cents on the Wet Coast of Canada.

rafram 4mo ago
$35,000 in 1998 is $72,500 in 2026, which is still a totally fine income. I know people living pretty well on that in New York City.
- nullorempty 4mo ago
  well, if one bedroom now goes for 2000$ that's x4 increase where as the 72K vs 35K is only x2 increase So, no, your math doesn't work.
  - rafram 4mo ago
    Who said a one-bedroom is $2,000?
    - nullorempty 4mo ago
      I'd say at least 2K. But the poster above says it's over 3K.
      - rafram 4mo ago
        The poster above was quoting the median for all apartments in New York City, the (second-?)most expensive market in the country. Nationally it’s about $1,600 for a 1br: https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/us/ https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/us/
        nullorempty 4mo ago
        You mentioned NY - logical to look at NY then no?
- john_strinlai 4mo ago
  >I know people living pretty well on that in New York City. median asking rent in 2026 for NYC is $3616/mo ($43,392/yr) meaning rent alone would be 60% of that income, assuming that the $72.5k figure is after taxes (which it probably isnt). if you take taxes off, you're probably at like 55-60k. that means rent alone is 70%-77% of income! "living pretty well"?
  - rafram 4mo ago
    Yes, because you really don't have to pay that much. Those expensive apartments go to people who aren't very price sensitive (either because they actually have the money, or because they want to live it up in their 20s/30s and are spending beyond their means) or who are willing to live with enough roommates to make it affordable. If all you can find is a $3.5k unit, you'll need to get a roommate. But you can find better if you put in the work and look beyond StreetEasy. The median household income in New York City is only $81,000 per year! People make it work!

rafram 4mo ago

$35,000 in 1998 is $72,500 in 2026, which is still a totally fine income. I know people living pretty well on that in New York City.

nullorempty 4mo ago
well, if one bedroom now goes for 2000$ that's x4 increase where as the 72K vs 35K is only x2 increase So, no, your math doesn't work.
- rafram 4mo ago
  Who said a one-bedroom is $2,000?
  - nullorempty 4mo ago
    I'd say at least 2K. But the poster above says it's over 3K.
    - rafram 4mo ago
      The poster above was quoting the median for all apartments in New York City, the (second-?)most expensive market in the country. Nationally it’s about $1,600 for a 1br: https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/us/ https://www.apartments.com/rent-market-trends/us/
      - nullorempty 4mo ago
        You mentioned NY - logical to look at NY then no?
john_strinlai 4mo ago
>I know people living pretty well on that in New York City. median asking rent in 2026 for NYC is $3616/mo ($43,392/yr) meaning rent alone would be 60% of that income, assuming that the $72.5k figure is after taxes (which it probably isnt). if you take taxes off, you're probably at like 55-60k. that means rent alone is 70%-77% of income! "living pretty well"?
- rafram 4mo ago
  Yes, because you really don't have to pay that much. Those expensive apartments go to people who aren't very price sensitive (either because they actually have the money, or because they want to live it up in their 20s/30s and are spending beyond their means) or who are willing to live with enough roommates to make it affordable. If all you can find is a $3.5k unit, you'll need to get a roommate. But you can find better if you put in the work and look beyond StreetEasy. The median household income in New York City is only $81,000 per year! People make it work!