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atproto is also open source and in my experience (solely as a user rather than a developer on the API/network) it simply works better than Mastodon.

• mort96 4mo ago
  And what is that experience of yours? Do you have experience from deployments with many independent atproto data servers and relays federating together? Or do you have experience from bluesky, meaning you're only interacting with one central server and none of the complexities of federation come into play?
  • tao_oat 4mo ago
    If you use bsky.app, you still see posts from other servers (Blacksky, Eurosky, W Social, and so on). But yes, by the protocol's design you're primarily interacting with one central aggregator of everything (Bluesky's AppView).
  • danabramov 4mo ago
    That’s like saying that someone using Google Reader doesn’t “experience federation of RSS”. Yes, my experience using the Bluesky app includes the Bluesky app server aggregating from many independent PDS hosts (because people I follow like that). But it doesn’t show up in user experience because that’s the whole point. And yes, I can use another aggregator instead of the Bluesky app, or even use a client which has no backend and relies on community-run Constellation index. It all roughly works the same.
    • mort96 4mo ago
      And it works as smoothly for people on other app servers?
      • danabramov 4mo ago
        What does “people on other app servers” mean? That’s not a thing. App servers are aggregators. You can use any to read the network. Here’s a post I wrote, as seen via Bluesky aggregator: https://bsky.app/profile/danabra.mov/post/3mol3gyikac2d https://bsky.app/profile/danabra.mov/post/3mol3gyikac2d A second later, I could see the same post via the Blacksky community aggregator: https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:fpruhuo22xkm5o7ttr2ktxdo/post/3mol3gyikac2d https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:fpruhuo22xkm5o7tt... Here’s the same post on pdsls which reads it directly from my hosting: https://pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:fpruhuo22xkm5o7ttr2ktxdo/app.bsky.feed.post/3mol3gyikac2d https://pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:fpruhuo22xkm5o7ttr2ktxdo/app.... My hosting is managed by Bluesky but it has nothing to do with Bluesky app. Hosting is a separate decoupled thing. I could move hosting to my own Docker container, and all aggregators would see my posts just as fine. Does this clear things up?
        • danabramov 4mo ago
          (Update: I actually have moved my hosting today but it seems like Blacksky is caching resolution too aggressively so it might not resolve it for a few more hours.)
      • OneDeuxTriSeiGo 4mo ago
        Users of different appviews are just using a different aggregator/backend in effect. The network is still largely the same but there may be minor moderation or feature differences between appviews. Users of different PDS would be the closest thing to a mastodon instance and there's thousands of different PDS without much issue. I'm on a "third party PDS" and I've had barely any issues. I use a "third party" PDS, appview, PLC directory mirror, CDN, and client so 99.9% of my interaction with bluesky and atproto at large is independent of bluesky the corporation. Despite using a third party "basically everything" my experience is essentially the same as a "default" bluesky user if not better in many ways
  • afavour 4mo ago
    This is exactly why I clarified with "as a user". I just checked and yes, I follow someone that's on Eurosky. Maybe I follow multiple, I honestly don't know because it isn't at all noticeable. It just works.
• chadgpt3 4mo ago
  ATProto is centralized.