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I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it j

by wolfi1 4mo ago

I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. does it emulate windows under linux and vice versa? then it definitely would be very interesting if it just sandboxes applications in the respective OS it could still be useful but has less advantages

ramon156 4mo ago
I love when LLMs add stats that do not convey anything > 2 OS targets Well yeah.. Edit: I would like to add that I checked out the GH and it seems like a really cool project, hence it's a shame that the website did not reflect that.
- momo5502 4mo ago
  I gladly accept pull request. I'm bad at webdesign and I'm not that big of a fan of AI generated pages (although I gotta admit I AI generated the landing page; hence I'm not a big fan of it). So if you have inspiration on how to improve it, especially on how to better present the project, feel free to tell me, or create a PR.
zx8080 4mo ago
> I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. But they are not for you! They apparently help to appear on the HN frontpage. And probably also winning some ~sponsor~ investor money.
mike_hock 4mo ago
If the landing page is slop, just assume that the code is, too.
mentalgear 4mo ago
As usual, the repo (https://github.com/momo5502/sogen https://github.com/momo5502/sogen) should be the HN link. On first look of the linked talk/demo, the German guy behind the project seems of legit DRM-background expertise.
- homarp 4mo ago
  on their twitter, author shows it running Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and 3: https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2065872369407742398#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2065872369407742398#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2066937863162192049#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2066937863162192049#m
  - mentalgear 4mo ago
    Being able to run any windows productivity app on any other OS would be a game changer ! Did you investigate this?
    - homarp 4mo ago
      it requires 'the actual ntdll, kernel32 and user32, not reimplemented stubs. So it's unclear how would that work from a licensing PoV
drdexebtjl 4mo ago
Respectfully, maybe you’re not the target audience? I think I understood it immediately. It’s a debugging/reverse engineering tool. It emulates user space, so it can control/introspect the target processes to the same level that a kernel-level debugger could, but in user space.
- wolfi1 4mo ago
  that was not my question, my question was, if i could run windows programs under linux or vice versa, that was not clear to me and this wasn't answered by you as well, fortunately the original author clarified this
firebot 4mo ago
There's literally a demo video where he uses the tool and explains everything.
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momo5502 4mo ago
Hey, author here, I agree with you. Landing page is shit. I will rework it, but at the moment, I'm rather focusing on improving the project itself. To answer your actual question, it does both. It emulates both windows and linux (although linux implementation was done by a contributor and it's probably not as evolved as the windows part). It also does so on every platform, so you can emulate windows on your android/ios phone, even on the web. It cross compiles to pretty much every platform. It supports various emulation backends, e.g. Unicorn (which uses QEMU under the hood), but also Hyper-V on windows. That's where the sandboxing part comes in to play: As Hyper-V is pretty fast, the emulator starts turning into a sandbox. Maybe some day I can add KVM support so you can run sandboxed Windows apps on Linux, but I haven't had the time yet. So at the moment, only the slow emulation backends work on Linux.

by wolfi1 4mo ago

ramon156 4mo ago

I love when LLMs add stats that do not convey anything > 2 OS targets Well yeah.. Edit: I would like to add that I checked out the GH and it seems like a really cool project, hence it's a shame that the website did not reflect that.

momo5502 4mo ago
I gladly accept pull request. I'm bad at webdesign and I'm not that big of a fan of AI generated pages (although I gotta admit I AI generated the landing page; hence I'm not a big fan of it). So if you have inspiration on how to improve it, especially on how to better present the project, feel free to tell me, or create a PR.

zx8080 4mo ago

> I don't like these landing pages which explain nothing. But they are not for you! They apparently help to appear on the HN frontpage. And probably also winning some ~sponsor~ investor money.

mike_hock 4mo ago

If the landing page is slop, just assume that the code is, too.

mentalgear 4mo ago

As usual, the repo (https://github.com/momo5502/sogen https://github.com/momo5502/sogen) should be the HN link. On first look of the linked talk/demo, the German guy behind the project seems of legit DRM-background expertise.

homarp 4mo ago
on their twitter, author shows it running Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and 3: https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2065872369407742398#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2065872369407742398#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2066937863162192049#m https://xcancel.com/momo5502/status/2066937863162192049#m
- mentalgear 4mo ago
  Being able to run any windows productivity app on any other OS would be a game changer ! Did you investigate this?
  - homarp 4mo ago
    it requires 'the actual ntdll, kernel32 and user32, not reimplemented stubs. So it's unclear how would that work from a licensing PoV

drdexebtjl 4mo ago

Respectfully, maybe you’re not the target audience? I think I understood it immediately. It’s a debugging/reverse engineering tool. It emulates user space, so it can control/introspect the target processes to the same level that a kernel-level debugger could, but in user space.

wolfi1 4mo ago
that was not my question, my question was, if i could run windows programs under linux or vice versa, that was not clear to me and this wasn't answered by you as well, fortunately the original author clarified this

firebot 4mo ago

There's literally a demo video where he uses the tool and explains everything.

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momo5502 4mo ago

Hey, author here, I agree with you. Landing page is shit. I will rework it, but at the moment, I'm rather focusing on improving the project itself. To answer your actual question, it does both. It emulates both windows and linux (although linux implementation was done by a contributor and it's probably not as evolved as the windows part). It also does so on every platform, so you can emulate windows on your android/ios phone, even on the web. It cross compiles to pretty much every platform. It supports various emulation backends, e.g. Unicorn (which uses QEMU under the hood), but also Hyper-V on windows. That's where the sandboxing part comes in to play: As Hyper-V is pretty fast, the emulator starts turning into a sandbox. Maybe some day I can add KVM support so you can run sandboxed Windows apps on Linux, but I haven't had the time yet. So at the moment, only the slow emulation backends work on Linux.