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Visited China recently and it's pretty astonishing what can be achieved if you just ignore the whiners, complainers, environmentalists, and local governments. N
by tormeh 4mo ago
Visited China recently and it's pretty astonishing what can be achieved if you just ignore the whiners, complainers, environmentalists, and local governments. NIMBYs? Get lost. Have unique local culture? Funny but no. There's a special kind of beetle living there? Tough shit. It's ugly? So is your face. Etc. This is how the West built its infrastructure back in the day - nobody consulted NIMBYs or the native Americans on railway construction - but now we're too good for this, and we reap the consequences.
I'm still on team democracy, and we'll see how long it takes before China regresses to the norm of dictatorships. Xi has already broken the term limits. Nothing suggests he won't slowly lose his grip on reality like most dictators. But for now China has its charms.
- SJC_Hacker 4mo agoRail lines in the US were not great examples of this. Many towns refused to grant right of way to the rail unless a stop was added which basically forced passengers to change trains. As a result, there’s were so many changes it took two to three days to get from say, Chicago to NYC when it should have taken no longer than a day
- DrewADesign 3mo agoIsn’t Chicago to NYC like going from Lisbon to Munich? Over a hundred years ago, 3 days would have been pretty great.
- nephihaha 4mo agoThe problem with the Chinese system is when there are genuine engineering problems then people are afraid to voice them. p.s. I don't think Native Americans are a factor in most of the west except Canada and the USA.
- tormeh 4mo agoTrue, but it's a provocative and widely understood example. Some things are lost in steamrolling everyone, basically, but it's still not a mistake.
- frollogaston 4mo agoChina will also acid-wash land to extract rare earths. It does achieve what they wanted though.