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If I spoke freely about how I feel about the US right now and the direct personal impact of policies implemented by the recent administration, I'd be denied ent

If I spoke freely about how I feel about the US right now and the direct personal impact of policies implemented by the recent administration, I'd be denied entry into the country to visit friends later this year. It is inconsequential if the US or China have my data, both will misuse it and I am powerless to protect myself from that fact. Not using LLMs presents a bigger threat to my career than protecting my data.

godelski 3mo ago
> If I spoke freely about how I feel about the US right now If you read my comment as defending the US then you've misread. Also, you're probably just as pissed as 60% of Americans > It is inconsequential if the US or China have my data Sure it does. The way each distributes data between government and industry has some differences. So too does the different disinformation campaigns each country is running against Australia. But the main point is really that 2 > 1. 1 country scraping your data is bad. 2 is worse.
- Cub3 3mo ago
  > you're probably just as pissed as 60% of Americans Yet you voted for it
  - apatheticonion 3mo ago
    To be fair, most of their votes don't actually count. And even with our westminster system, One nation has swept the right wing. Considering how many seats they will likely get in the next election, my high horse has shrunk a fair bit.
  - godelski 3mo ago
    Me? I didn't vote for the orange Nazi
    - LtWorf 3mo ago
      Because you think by voting for the other person AI companies and USA government wouldn't misuse all the data they hoard?
      - godelski 3mo ago
        Why do you think I like them or support those actions? Do you support everything the Klingon Empire does? That doesn't seem like the Worf I know. The Worf I know can distinguish the people of a civilization from the leaders of their societies. To conflate them just creates the problems you are criticizing
        LtWorf 3mo ago
        The klingon empire isn't a democracy, we don't delude ourselves that simply swapping one single person would have made a difference.
        godelski 3mo ago
        The same fact is true in a democracy. A democracy specifically is set up so just a single person doesn't rule. That's called a dictatorship. But you turn a democracy into a dictatorship through tribalism. So forgive me if I get mad at you trying to place me into a nice well defined box. You're helping erode the democracy I (and so many others) desperately want to maintain (and improve). What would Worf do? I'm certain he wouldn't have done what you did
        apatheticonion 3mo ago
        Sorry that you're being blamed. People have a pretty negative sentiment towards Americans in general right now because we have been watching helplessly in horror as our best friend tears things down. I have friends in blue states who didn't vote because it wouldn't have changed the outcome given the electoral college - it's unfair to blame them for not participating as they were never able to in the first place. Not that democrats are angels. You guys are damned if you're blue / (extra) damned if you're red - given the state of both options. I appreciate that you're doing what you can
Humphrey 3mo ago
Correct - As an Australian I feel free to say anything. But as an Australian who might like to travel again to the USA at some point in the future, I do not feel I have freedom to share openly online. Whereas, China does not ask for my social network logins, or for me to be pre-approved to travel there. So that is unlikely to be affected.

godelski 3mo ago

> If I spoke freely about how I feel about the US right now If you read my comment as defending the US then you've misread. Also, you're probably just as pissed as 60% of Americans > It is inconsequential if the US or China have my data Sure it does. The way each distributes data between government and industry has some differences. So too does the different disinformation campaigns each country is running against Australia. But the main point is really that 2 > 1. 1 country scraping your data is bad. 2 is worse.

Cub3 3mo ago
> you're probably just as pissed as 60% of Americans Yet you voted for it
- apatheticonion 3mo ago
  To be fair, most of their votes don't actually count. And even with our westminster system, One nation has swept the right wing. Considering how many seats they will likely get in the next election, my high horse has shrunk a fair bit.
- godelski 3mo ago
  Me? I didn't vote for the orange Nazi
  - LtWorf 3mo ago
    Because you think by voting for the other person AI companies and USA government wouldn't misuse all the data they hoard?
    - godelski 3mo ago
      Why do you think I like them or support those actions? Do you support everything the Klingon Empire does? That doesn't seem like the Worf I know. The Worf I know can distinguish the people of a civilization from the leaders of their societies. To conflate them just creates the problems you are criticizing
      - LtWorf 3mo ago
        The klingon empire isn't a democracy, we don't delude ourselves that simply swapping one single person would have made a difference.
        godelski 3mo ago
        The same fact is true in a democracy. A democracy specifically is set up so just a single person doesn't rule. That's called a dictatorship. But you turn a democracy into a dictatorship through tribalism. So forgive me if I get mad at you trying to place me into a nice well defined box. You're helping erode the democracy I (and so many others) desperately want to maintain (and improve). What would Worf do? I'm certain he wouldn't have done what you did
        apatheticonion 3mo ago
        Sorry that you're being blamed. People have a pretty negative sentiment towards Americans in general right now because we have been watching helplessly in horror as our best friend tears things down. I have friends in blue states who didn't vote because it wouldn't have changed the outcome given the electoral college - it's unfair to blame them for not participating as they were never able to in the first place. Not that democrats are angels. You guys are damned if you're blue / (extra) damned if you're red - given the state of both options. I appreciate that you're doing what you can

Humphrey 3mo ago

Correct - As an Australian I feel free to say anything. But as an Australian who might like to travel again to the USA at some point in the future, I do not feel I have freedom to share openly online. Whereas, China does not ask for my social network logins, or for me to be pre-approved to travel there. So that is unlikely to be affected.