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From the Ars Technica article... OpenAI’s headline “net loss” number of just over $5 billion in 2024 ballooned to nearly $39 billion in 2025. But the 2025 numbe
by _spduchamp 4mo ago
From the Ars Technica article...
OpenAI’s headline “net loss” number of just over $5 billion in 2024 ballooned to nearly $39 billion in 2025. But the 2025 number includes a significant accounting charge related to investor valuations that shifted amid the company’s 2025 conversion to a for-profit structure. The Financial Times cites “a person familiar with the matter” in reporting that this non-recurring charge was approximately $30 billion and that OpenAI’s 2025 net loss amounted to a more reasonable-looking $8 billion without it.
Huh? Where did $30 billion go?
- grebc 4mo agoWritten off. They might not have spent $30b but they likely valued their asset base at >>> $30b+ and had to adjust that at the time of converting to for profit, is how I read it. “One time non-recurring” is also just accounting double speak that lets executives cover up dumb stuff while sounding plausibly OK.
- ThrustVectoring 4mo agoProfit and loss tracks changes to the fair price of purchasing the business, not operational cash flow. The $30b didn't go anywhere since it's not cash flow, it's acknowledging that someone who purchases OpenAI today would be on the hook for $30b more of future ownership dilution than before 2025.
- datadrivenangel 4mo agoThey promised the former investors $30b in equity, which is like taking a loan accounting wise.