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> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite diffi
by matheusmoreira 5mo ago
> Pixel phones are not sold worldwide
Still boggles my mind the fact Google doesn't sell their phones worldwide. Obtaining a Pixel has proven to be quite difficult for me.
- dakolli 5mo agoIt still boggles my mind that the most popular privacy OS requires Google manufactured hardware, that fact alone makes me not trust it at all.
- WD-42 5mo agoPhone hardware is a hellscape it doesn’t surprise me at all that they need to keep the number of supported devices small in order to deliver a decent product.
- lern_too_spel 5mo agoDespite Google's other failings, it was the OG supporter of data portability, and that spirit extends to its phones. No other phone manufacturer with wide distribution comes close. It's unfortunate that the people who design the hardware do such a poor job with the resources at their disposal.
- sharts 5mo agoIs it still the case that Android backups leave much to be desired when compared to iphone? Pretty much the only reason I use Apple is that I can switch to a replacement phone and it’s exactly the same state as the last backup.
- mvdtnz 5mo agoIt's ridiculous is what it is. It makes me deeply distrustful of the organisation behind Graphene that they would make such a crazy choice.
- digitalPhonix 5mo agoThe intersection of phones that have unlockable bootloaders, public-ish driver blobs and decent hardware is tiny. What other phone would you pick?
- kevin_thibedeau 5mo agoEverything Lineage supports.
- jcgl 5mo agoHow do you reconcile that position with what Graphene OS lists as requirements for support, as linked by another commenter? https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices I’m not an expert, but all the listed points there sound reasonable. If indeed only the Pixels support them, well, it’s too bad there’s not other, similarly secure hardware out there.
- hexfish 5mo agoPlease go read this and try again: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices If you want Graphene level security you need to have the hardware for it.
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- HybridStatAnim8 5mo agoIt is not ridiculous at all. GrapheneOS is not going to compromise the privacy and security of their users for the sake of spite for one specific company. It would be immature and irresponsible to make important choices based on spite rather than objectivity. Motorola has stepped up to meet the baseline requirements for GrapheneOS support, and we should get Motorola devices with official GrapheneOS support next year.
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- flexagoon 5mo agoThey list their exact criteria for supporting a device. So far, only Pixels fit all of them (and I guess the Motorolas will soon) https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
- tcfhgj 5mo ago> So far, only Pixels fit all of them might as well list all features of pixel phones
- HybridStatAnim8 5mo agoGrapheneOS does not depend on all of the features of pixel phones. The baseline requirements GrapheneOS has are generic, they are not built upon or tied to what pixel phones provide. Pixels actually exceed the baseline rather than barely meeting them. Other OEMs can make devices that meet the requirements, and Motorola is doing just that. We should get Motorola devices with official GrapheneOS support next year.
- HybridStatAnim8 5mo agoGrapheneOS is not going to compromise on hardware security for the sake of spiting one specific company. GrapheneOS supports all viable platforms, and right now that is the pixel lineup. Additional device support requires OEMs step up their game, and so far, only Motorola is up to the task, and we should get Motorola devices with official GrapheneOS support next year. There is nothing crazy about doing something properly.
- wraptile 5mo agoNot only obtaining but if you ever need warranty you're done. Just last week I went to a Samsung center and had my fold 6 fixed in 30 minutes, and these centers are everywhere around the world. Same thing with Apple, yet a 4.5 trillion dollar company can't ship and maintain a phone globally. It's so unserious.
- d3Xt3r 5mo agoOut of curiosity, what was wrong with your Fold 6?
- wraptile 5mo agoThe inner screen built-in protector was peeling in the middle. It was out of warranty, but Samsung charged me 15$ which is very reasonable. The inner screen looks brand-new now, and I guess that's the benefit of these soft foldable screens - you can refresh the entire thing very easily.
- matheusmoreira 5mo agoYeah. Could be difficult even if one is willing to forgo the warranty. My city has local repair services, they easily repaired my old Samsung phone. Servicing Pixels could be difficult even for them.
- elAhmo 5mo agoThey definitely can, they just don't want to.
- whizzter 5mo agoAnd that's the unserious part, they really don't want anything to do with consumers despite making consumer products (gmail, Android, etc.) so you're always at the mercy of their automatic systems.
- rcbdev 5mo agoGoogle has historically always sucked at being a product company. Despite this, they're quite successful at it.