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The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Askin

by lucb1e 4mo ago

The post doesn't say - what's new? Anything to look forward to besides the security patches for A17 being available for longer than they will be for A16? Asking as an A11 user who will probably soon need to switch to a new device. I haven't noticed anything on other people's phones that isn't available on mine, including on my work phone that runs an up-to-date GrapheneOS (but I don't need to do much more than calling and 2FA, so I might just not be seeing it). Anything you guys are excited for, or any protips of things to check out that were released recently?

Cider9986 4mo ago
Desktop mode is new and exciting. This should have the full list; it's not a ton of changes, which speaks to how perfected Android has become. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17...
- jayd16 4mo ago
  New garbage collector could be pretty big.
  - microtonal 4mo ago
    But some of the garbage collector changes are also rolling out to older Android versions through a Play System Update. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17.html?m=1 https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17... I'm not sure though if GrapheneOS gets mainline modules at all (most likely not).
- lucb1e 4mo ago
  Ah, right I forgot they are discontinuing ChromeOS. Makes sense that current Android releases are focused on getting the Android laptop experience on par Edit: not discontinued but 'merge with Android' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS
em3rgent0rdr 4mo ago
Presumably any new Android 17 features that aren't counter to GrapheneOS's mission, such as "Bubbles allows you to turn any app into a compact, floating window" https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/android-17-features/ https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android...
- lucb1e 4mo ago
  Does GrapheneOS run on tablets? I don't see a whole chat app (shown in the example) fitting on my phone screen alongside something like a web browser, and the screenshot is from a square screen
  - handedness 4mo ago
    It's complicated. The Tensor G2 Pixel tablet was a solid device, and you can still buy it new from Google (with no choice on color or size in my country), but production has been discontinued and the two direct generational successors were canceled, in sequence. First it was skipping a generation, then it was canceling it entirely. The rumored "Pro" version also appears to have been axed. I've used mine daily since it came out, and it's a great experience. I'd recommend picking it up for anyone who wants GOS on a larger screen. An iPad it isn't, but my iPad Pros have sat almost totally dormant since I got it years ago. It lacks horsepower compared to the latest Pixel Pros, but that hasn't been a practical concern in anything I've done with it so far.
    - someguyornotidk 4mo ago
      > production has been discontinued and the two direct generational successors were canceled, in sequence. First it was skipping a generation, then it was canceling it entirely. The rumored "Pro" version also appears to have been axed. Pity. Genuine pity. Guess I'll continue using my 5 year-old out-of-support device until someone decides to make a decent GrapheneOS-compatible tablet with stylus pen support. If it breaks, I'll just go back to notebooks.
      - 4mo ago

by lucb1e 4mo ago

Cider9986 4mo ago

Desktop mode is new and exciting. This should have the full list; it's not a ton of changes, which speaks to how perfected Android has become. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17...

jayd16 4mo ago
New garbage collector could be pretty big.
- microtonal 4mo ago
  But some of the garbage collector changes are also rolling out to older Android versions through a Play System Update. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17.html?m=1 https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2026/06/Android-17... I'm not sure though if GrapheneOS gets mainline modules at all (most likely not).
lucb1e 4mo ago
Ah, right I forgot they are discontinuing ChromeOS. Makes sense that current Android releases are focused on getting the Android laptop experience on par Edit: not discontinued but 'merge with Android' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS

em3rgent0rdr 4mo ago

Presumably any new Android 17 features that aren't counter to GrapheneOS's mission, such as "Bubbles allows you to turn any app into a compact, floating window" https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android/android-17-features/ https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/platforms/android...

lucb1e 4mo ago
Does GrapheneOS run on tablets? I don't see a whole chat app (shown in the example) fitting on my phone screen alongside something like a web browser, and the screenshot is from a square screen
- handedness 4mo ago
  It's complicated. The Tensor G2 Pixel tablet was a solid device, and you can still buy it new from Google (with no choice on color or size in my country), but production has been discontinued and the two direct generational successors were canceled, in sequence. First it was skipping a generation, then it was canceling it entirely. The rumored "Pro" version also appears to have been axed. I've used mine daily since it came out, and it's a great experience. I'd recommend picking it up for anyone who wants GOS on a larger screen. An iPad it isn't, but my iPad Pros have sat almost totally dormant since I got it years ago. It lacks horsepower compared to the latest Pixel Pros, but that hasn't been a practical concern in anything I've done with it so far.
  - someguyornotidk 4mo ago
    > production has been discontinued and the two direct generational successors were canceled, in sequence. First it was skipping a generation, then it was canceling it entirely. The rumored "Pro" version also appears to have been axed. Pity. Genuine pity. Guess I'll continue using my 5 year-old out-of-support device until someone decides to make a decent GrapheneOS-compatible tablet with stylus pen support. If it breaks, I'll just go back to notebooks.
    - 4mo ago